Caapi Tea and Oral (FB) Spice - Update/Questions

[DudeMeetTyler]

So Im brewing some caapi tea for a sort of pharma and there is tonnes!!! of info. For example, this thread is very similiar, though it doesnt cover redosing. All this great info gives me lots to consider.. So I just thought I would ask those of you more experienced.

Im brewing 120 g of White Caapi of unknown potency. Whole pieces were broken into smaller pieces with a hammer, ripped into smaller pieces by hand then thrown into a coffee grinder for a spin or two. Result = some shredded, some powder. And was brewed as follows:
1st boil = 1 hour, 2nd = 45 min, 3rd = 45 min, 4th = 30 min (some say more, some say less, I figure I'll go in between and save the solids just in case). I should also mention that I am NOT using any acid in my boils.

I plan on taking 60 g Caapi (half of the resulting liquid) then ~20 min later 50 mg FB spice in Orange Juice.

I have read a bunch and some say more MAOI, less spice, more spice. Thoughts?

I'm not looking for anything terrifying but I would like a nice ride, I am in need of a good cleanse.


If this initial dose doesnt get me to where I would like to be, how long should I wait to redose? I have read ~ 1.5 hours, is this about right?

And how should I redose?

60 g more Caapi? Wait (how long, 20 min?), then another 50 mg spice?
- i think this might be way too high. Perhaps cut the redoses in half (30 caapi, 25 spice?)


Thanks

 

[Global]

My recommendation to you would be that if it's not getting you as far as you like, instead of drinking more, you might enjoy vaping some spice. It will rather instantly move you into an immersive space for a bit. I never take aya/pharma without vaping some spice as that's my favorite part

 

[DudeMeetTyler]

This is kinda long with a few questions at the end but here it goes....

So I consumed ~60 grams of White Caapi (half of the 120 g brew reduced), brewed as above (I actually did a 5th boil) and 50 mg spcie at 20 min and another at ~ 60 min.

T - 0:00, consumed the caapi brew, didnt taste that bad but there was a lot of sediment that made it rather unpleasant to take back. Perhaps I reduced to much, (60g/50 ml)

T ~ 0:15 the effects of the caapi were quite strong and pleasant. "Wow, this is going to be a nice ride"

T ~ 0:20 I consumed 50 mg of FB spice dissolved in orange juice.

T ~ 0:40 I didn't notice any major effects so, remembering it is good to stimulate digestion I got up out of bed to grab a banana (I had pears and apples near by but figured they would be a little heavy). Upon returning to bed and eating a few bites I felt the purge coming. Thankfully a bucket was handy.

As I was still feeling the caapi quite heavily I waited until T ~ 1:00 to see where I would go, as I was unsure where my journey would bring me after purging relatively early.

At this time (t - 1:00) I still noticed the caapi quite intensely with only slight effects from the spice. I decided to redose, however simply the thought of my caapi brew turned my stomach. Looking at it was even worse haha. So thinking i was at least somewhat still inhibited, as the effects of the caapi were still quite strong (wobbly feeling, sensitivity to light, etc), I took another 50 mg spice dissolved in OJ.

T - 1:00 to t - 230 I had a lot of stomach discomfort and some mild CEV (patterns/fractals and a few important faces to me) and some OEV (changes in perception and some movements though not much).

After this time effects diminished gradually, though the nausea was still present. I again purged at about t ~ 4:00, after eating an apple and a pear (turns out they did sit a little heavy haha).

Overall i think this was a good first experience though I think i need some practice brewing to make the tea more enjoyable.

(Ps Global I couldnt bring myself to smoke any while i was inhibited, I dont think i was quite ready for something that intense, yet.. :lol: )

Anyways a few questions

1) Do you think I was still inhibited from the caapi at t 1:00 after purging at t 0:40?
- if so it would seem im a little hard headed as 50 mg spice did not do much (though i wont make this assumption until I have done a few more trials)

2) for those of you who have tried white (trueno) and other kinds of caapi, is white really as physically heavy as they say? (It was the only kind they had at the time I ordered, but now they have yellow and black as well). Should i try another colour of caapi?

3) When simmering your brew what is meant by simmer. Googling it resulted in "just under a boil". What exactly does this mean, should the brew be bubbling? (I asked this question in chat and house replied though it was with a yes, your idea of simmering is correct and i still was not too sure ). If it should be bubbling, how frequent shoudl the bubbles be?

4) When reducing i noticed a sticky film on the side of the pot. Do you guys try and scrape this off back into the tea? I did and I have a feeling this is what gave the caapi tea even more sediment.

5) Any other brew tips or suggestions of any kind would be very welcome!

Thanks in advance for your time/responses

The Dude

 

[Lost travellier]

I did not do pharma with Caapi (only with Harmalas-Manske), but i think that with dose Caapi-tea beside you all were got it is correct.
Harmalas eat act longer than 2 hours.

The problem with taking DMT - has acted weakly. I have also too that weak OEV/CEV at dose DMT-fb =100-120mg.
Possible this particularity of the body. I have advised some other time to try to enlarge the dose DMT-fb up to 120-160mg (80mg + 80mg later).

Good luck!

 

[maranello551]

Anyways a few questions

1) Do you think I was still inhibited from the caapi at t 1:00 after purging at t 0:40?
- if so it would seem im a little hard headed as 50 mg spice did not do much (though i wont make this assumption until I have done a few more trials)

2) for those of you who have tried white (trueno) and other kinds of caapi, is white really as physically heavy as they say? (It was the only kind they had at the time I ordered, but now they have yellow and black as well). Should i try another colour of caapi?

3) When simmering your brew what is meant by simmer. Googling it resulted in "just under a boil". What exactly does this mean, should the brew be bubbling? (I asked this question in chat and house replied though it was with a yes, your idea of simmering is correct and i still was not too sure ). If it should be bubbling, how frequent shoudl the bubbles be?

4) When reducing i noticed a sticky film on the side of the pot. Do you guys try and scrape this off back into the tea? I did and I have a feeling this is what gave the caapi tea even more sediment.

5) Any other brew tips or suggestions of any kind would be very welcome!

Thanks in advance for your time/responses

The Dude

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