can caapi only tea be as healing as aya?

[cosmic butterfly]

hi i know theres some shamans in the amazon that use only the vine for the brew, and coincidentally that is called ayauasca as well. So question is the dmt contatining plants for the visions, and the vine is whats doing the healing? Ive had a couple aya sessions where i just felt amazing for following days and got rid of all negative energies that were in me and more concerned at the moment in healing rather than mystical experience, so could caapi only tea be just as healing as an admixture brew?
cheers

 

[universecannon]

I don't know how one really can quantify "just as healing", except subjectively really..I mean the healing is from the synergy of the two.. but yes the vine is very healing in itself without any other admixture plants. Especially if 5g or so is taken before bed each day, in conjunct with say a larger vine-only brew every so often. A common thing most don't realize is that caapi is very very psychedelic by itself at high doses and its really a totally unique experience.

 

[cosmic butterfly]

only 5 grams, how many days in conjunction? and how much of the larger dose to take?
tried once 40grams of only caapi and had hardly any effect, no purge, no afterglow..
cheers

 

[universecannon]

as many days as you want, and it doesn't have to be 5g.. but given how expensive caapi is i sometimes just do 5g..in general I try and go as long as possible drinking roughly 5-20g at night

as for the bigger dose, you just have to find whats right for you. 40g is a very small dose for the vast majority of vine out there. If you didn't get anything from that, i would just double it, then drink more if your still not where you want to be. Its generally very warm and welcoming so don't be afraid of high doses, but it can cause a lot of nausea if you take really big amounts where you leave your body everytime you close your eyes. Welcome the purge if it comes! That will help. And just lay down in silent darkness, breathe deep and slow. i often take around 130g vine alone or more- you get used to the higher amounts after a while

 

[cosmic butterfly]

awesome! looking very foward to it now, and deffintly welcoming the purge with open arms , never understood y ppl try to reduce nausea and not purge, i think its huge part of the experience when comes to expending negetive energies from the body, yeh guess i just took too little before, time to turn up the dial, thnks