Can we get a petition for DMT Studys

[psychicdude]

Hi, I am new to this forum, but I am not new to DMT, I have been taking it all my life as my, (our) body's create it naturally. I choose not to take the substance ONLY Because of the ignorance that exists against it, I am a virgin to exogenous (DMT) - taken from outside the body, I get my DMT through prayer and meditation.

There are currently no DMT Study's being performed on this planet to the best of my knowledge...this is a travesty against mankind in my eyes. I am a little stressed out because of this...it is a long story.

Why can we not get a petition together to give to the Authority's so we can get some study's done on DMT's creation and effects of endogenous - being created from the body or exogenous - taken from outside the body, in relation to Addictions and most Importantly PSYCHIC VISIONS. Sorry for the yelling, but I have been asking this on Private (NOT PUBLIC) Forums on the net, I have been censured and even Banned for the last year and a half just for asking "Can DMT Create Psychic Visions?" The Answer Is of Course "YES"...but study's are being stone walled and I cannot stop till there is a study, I am an Obsessive Compulsive when it comes to unanswered questions, I am not kidding, this is driving me nuts all the GOD AWFUL indifference.

Can a petition be created to at least get a TRANSPARENT (SO ALL CAN SEE) CREDIBLE (NOT GOVERNMENT) STUDY IN DMT'S Relation to ESP?

PLEASE AS THIS IS ONE OF MY LIFE'S 5 MAJOR GOAL'S???

Oh here is my site it will let you know where I stand with DMT Password this is where I stand with DMT, it is my LIFE.

Please check out the ESP DMT Story with my future wife, as strange as this sounds...

Any Psychics know where I can find my future wife please let me know And thanks all here in advance for taking the time to read this and understand I am not crazy, just Obsessed till there is a study, I WANT TO BE IN IT, as I am skeptical by nature and find it hard to trust Studys unless I am in it, I have had MANY MANY PSYCHIC VISIONS and I feel (KNOW) DMT is the Cause

 

[universecannon]

That first link isn't workin

The petition idea is interesting..but why are you doing all of this without ever having even tried dmt?! It seems really silly to so readily conclude that your having dmt experiences through prayers, meditation, or psychic visions when you haven't even tried dmt for yourself yet..

 

[psychicdude]

Woops can we get a petition started?

 

[psychicdude]

That first link isn't workin

The petition idea is interesting..but why are you doing all of this without ever having even tried dmt?! It seems really silly to so readily conclude that your having dmt experiences through prayers, meditation, or psychic visions when you haven't even tried dmt for yourself yet..

I haven't tried DMT exogenously because it is Illegal (AND IT SHOULDN'T BE) and I don't know where to get it on the streets and I don't want to know where to get it on the streets, as I don't know what is being put in my body, I have seen ways of making it on line, but once again I would never make a drug as I am not a chemist, and if I make a mistake I could become a vegetable, also I know the Authority's against it, haven't taken it from outside their body's as well, this actually gives my point more weight and creditability with them. If my body (pineal gland) releases it naturally, I feel I have tried it, but from within my own body. The links on my site are strange...they work then they don't then they do, please try hitting the refresh button on your browser the first link should work now.

But I think what you mean is not that I haven't tried DMT, but I haven't tried taking it outside of my body. If I knew someone I trusted that had it, I would honestly consider trying it with them in the proper context and support, but being in recovery from addiction, getting street drugs is impossible for me as all my connections who I could trust from the past are either dead, in prison or hospitals for the insane or on the streets somewhere. If the first link works you will see where I am coming from, I hope it works now for you. Here it is again Password

To everyone I did read all the information (90%) at least and I am honestly not here to learn how to make it or where to get it, just to understand it more and one day legalize it, but first things first....Study's are needed.

 

[blue_velvet]

MAPS will get to it sooner or later. Strassman accomplished quite a bit in the US, but substances like cannabis, ibogaine, and mdma are more promising for practical application. The dominoes will fall sooner or later.

I'm not convinced that DMT plays a pivotal role in dreaming, but I won't discard the possibility. DMT has been found in the human body, but there is no consensus as to where it originates; the pineal gland is just a theory. As a libertarian I don't believe studies like this are the responsibility of government, but they made it illegal without any research. Just be patient, there is much work to do. Removing the stigma from cannabis, mushrooms, and LSD will do more for legalizing DMT than jumping right into it.

Person A: "They did a study on DMT. They found it's harmless."
Person B: "What the hell is DMT?"

 

[mistmann]

well, cool....

whats your thoughts on cannabis?

 

[universecannon]

That first link isn't workin

The petition idea is interesting..but why are you doing all of this without ever having even tried dmt?! It seems really silly to so readily conclude that your having dmt experiences through prayers, meditation, or psychic visions when you haven't even tried dmt for yourself yet..

I haven't tried DMT exogenously because it is Illegal (AND IT SHOULDN'T BE) and I don't know where to get it on the streets and I don't want to know where to get it on the streets, as I don't know what is being put in my body, I have seen ways of making it on line, but once again I would never make a drug as I am not a chemist, and if I make a mistake I could become a vegetable, also I know the Authority's against it, haven't taken it from outside their body's as well, this actually gives my point more weight and creditability with them. If my body (pineal gland) releases it naturally, I feel I have tried it, but from within my own body. The links on my site are strange...they work then they don't then they do, please try hitting the refresh button on your browser the first link should work now.

But I think what you mean is not that I haven't tried DMT, but I haven't tried taking it outside of my body. If I knew someone I trusted that had it, I would honestly consider trying it with them in the proper context and support, but being in recovery from addiction, getting street drugs is impossible for me as all my connections who I could trust from the past are either dead, in prison or hospitals for the insane or on the streets somewhere. If the first link works you will see where I am coming from, I hope it works now for you. Here it is again Password

To everyone I did read all the information (90%) at least and I am honestly not here to learn how to make it or where to get it, just to understand it more and one day legalize it, but first things first....Study's are needed.

The thing is, there is only a tiny amount you can understand about dmt without experiencing it. If your trying to understand it, you've come to the right place..but you'll never know much about it from reading some stuff on the internet..As far as extracting goes-you don't need to be a chemist, and you won't become a vegetable..all thats needed is common sense.. The majority of those who do extract aren't chemists. Its a piece of cake, (i've never even baked a cake.)

 

[Steely]

UniverseCannon speaks the truth here. For me, upon completing my first extraction (Someone who's greatest feat in the bonding of chemicals was french toast and poorly cooked sausage) I felt like a mad scientist. Many others can attest to this.

If you know how to add, subtract and read then you can successfully extract. DMT in it's freebase form is pure. It may come out dirty, but it can be cleaned very easily.

No one is ever ready to experience the full potential of DMT for the first time. Dreaming is a clouded false sense of reality, a collective of mixing thoughts, and a replacement created by a brain that survives off of stimulation. DMT is reality.

 

[Magicman]

Hi , I think is is a great undertaking ,thank youand i wish you the best of luck ,but:

i'm not saying this is my opinion ,or correct ,or anything similar but would it not possibly be better to try getting it legalized with a slightly less eccentric concept ? i think it could possibly scare people off, or make them put it BACK into the box of a zany madman's DRUG? or does it have enough evidance for it to be put forward as a credible theory, i mean i dont see why governmet would be concerned with people access to ESP.

Im not saying your wrong, or should give up , just trying to get ssome clarity, and hopefully aid in making a water tight scheme.

 

[Infundibulum]

There are currently no DMT Study's being performed on this planet to the best of my knowledge...this is a travesty against mankind in my eyes. I am a little stressed out because of this...it is a long story.

Why can we not get a petition together to give to the Authority's so we can get some study's done on DMT's creation and effects of endogenous - being created from the body or exogenous - taken from outside the body, in relation to Addictions and most Importantly PSYCHIC VISIONS.

There is research done on DMT, both for the endogenous and the exogenous. The latest published study re the endogenous role of DMT (and its relation to progesterone signalling) was published on the 17th of this November. And the previous study involved ayahuasca metabolites in human urine and was published on the 5th of November. So studies of the roles of both endogenous and exogenous dmt do exist. Where did you get this idea that no dmt studies are not performed?!?! Actually, for what it is (a Class A/Schedule I substance) dmt has been very successful at being part of a fair amount of research projects.

Also, petition to give to the authorities?!?! You don't have much idea on how research is done, do you? The vast majority of research in this world is done by non-governmental organisations (i.e. universities) using public funding. Authorities may be the last people you may want to address for such issues. And since public funding is often scarce, there's a priority list to which research is really important to fund and which not to fund. Contrary to what you may believe, dmt research for the moment is not the most promising thing around, therefore it does not attract much interest and funding. It is in par with, say, the development of the big toe, research interest-wise.

 

[psychicdude]

THANK YOU ALL. I wished I found this place a Year ago, I couldn't find it in google, I found it in David Icke's forum after pulling out my hair and finally someone posted this link.

Here is one of the Major reasons I am trying to get a petition started. If DMT Creates Psychic visions, which I feel are out of body (For me that is) then I have done massive amounts. I agree with everyone her to take it from the out side of the body is a bench mark for internal (body Created) DMT Experiences. If the body naturally creates it, I think I have done more than my share.

Now you guys ready for this, please do not think I am nuts, I had a Remote View of a Black Hole at a Quasar, I Traveled THROUGH a Black Hole! I was 19 years old when this happened and studying physics hard core. In the experience I experienced the creation of space time being created by the black hole as more and more energy was being pulled into the black hole it was creating more and more space time. Here is my video of my experience, http://brownskinwife.yolasite.com/heaven-in-black-holes.php#/news/ My video is the video at the top, the second video on the page is a fella who had an OBE and was going to Heaven. I swear I am not making this stuff up. IF BLACK HOLES Create Space Time, this could be really really fast space travel. Black holes may be responsible or partly responsible for the inflation of the universe, Psychic Astronaut in 2012 The HXMT, China's first astronomy satellite is expected to be be launched in into space and I believe this scope will give me the proof or disproof of this Faster than Light Motion from Quasar Jet Streams, I wouldn't be doing this, but the Faster than Light Motion from the Quasar Jet streams with a Line Of Site greater than 19 degrees, has had many models come and go, and every-time a new model is put forth the scientific community is happy with it, then new data is developed and the model changes again and again and again, and ever time the model changes it is Gospel in the scientific community, it is not the physicists at fault it is the system they work in. I feel strongly after that experience Black Holes Create space time and if the vision was real, (Which it was) then this Could like I said be really fast space travel, but ONLY Altruists and Oneness can leave this planet, the Voice of all voices in all voices in one voice said "We Are All One", Oneness is all that can leave...please don't kick me out of here for sharing that. Things like Human Authority can not leave, so no Businesses can go, McDonald's will not be heading to Alpha Centauri, no Corporations can go.

I am not psychotic and do not have any mental illness.

DMT Is The Water Of Life

 

[Infundibulum]

I am not psychotic and do not have any mental illness.

Yes, you are.

DMT Is The Water Of Life

No, water is the water of life. I shit you not (try depleting your body of water and see how much life will be left).

 

[psychicdude]

I am not psychotic and do not have any mental illness.

Yes, you are.
Are you a Doctor or just flaming me?

 

[Infundibulum]

I am not psychotic and do not have any mental illness.

Yes, you are.
Are you a Doctor or just flaming me?

Neither; but it is an old wisdom, (as old as that day follows night and night follows day) that there is a certain category of people that have the guts to declare themselves as not crazy:

The crazy ones.

 

[psychicdude]

There are currently no DMT Study's being performed on this planet to the best of my knowledge...this is a travesty against mankind in my eyes. I am a little stressed out because of this...it is a long story.

Why can we not get a petition together to give to the Authority's so we can get some study's done on DMT's creation and effects of endogenous - being created from the body or exogenous - taken from outside the body, in relation to Addictions and most Importantly PSYCHIC VISIONS.

There is research done on DMT, both for the endogenous and the exogenous. The latest published study re the endogenous role of DMT (and its relation to progesterone signalling) was published on the 17th of this November. And the previous study involved ayahuasca metabolites in human urine and was published on the 5th of November. So studies of the roles of both endogenous and exogenous dmt do exist. Where did you get this idea that no dmt studies are not performed?!?! Actually, for what it is (a Class A/Schedule I substance) dmt has been very successful at being part of a fair amount of research projects.

Also, petition to give to the authorities?!?! You don't have much idea on how research is done, do you? The vast majority of research in this world is done by non-governmental organisations (i.e. universities) using public funding. Authorities may be the last people you may want to address for such issues. And since public funding is often scarce, there's a priority list to which research is really important to fund and which not to fund. Contrary to what you may believe, dmt research for the moment is not the most promising thing around, therefore it does not attract much interest and funding. It is in par with, say, the development of the big toe, research interest-wise.

Where did you get the study's from above, these are study's released This Month, there weren't any studys after Dr Strassman Till this Month after their release.

 

[psychicdude]

I am not psychotic and do not have any mental illness.

Yes, you are.
Are you a Doctor or just flaming me?

Neither; but it is an old wisdom, (as old as that day follows night and night follows day) that there is a certain category of people that have the guts to declare themselves as not crazy:

The crazy ones.

We are not Crazy, it is this world that is Crazy, not the planet, but the system.

 

[The Traveler]

Where did you get the study's from above, these are study's released This Month, there weren't any studys after Dr Strassman Till this Month after their release.

Goto Pubmed and search for 'DMT' or 'ayahuasca', you will be surprised how many research has actually been done.

I don't know where you got the notion that no research has been done between Strassman's study and this month but it looks like you did no real research in finding studies like this yourself. :roll:


Kind regards,

The Traveler

 

[The Traveler]

but I have been asking this on Private (NOT PUBLIC) Forums on the net, I have been censured and even Banned for the last year and a half just for asking "Can DMT Create Psychic Visions?" The Answer Is of Course "YES"...

How do you know that the answer is YES? Just a gut feeling?

On the DMT-Nexus we like people to back-up their claims, especially if they are as wild as yours. So please don't state your theory as if it is truth.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

 

[psychicdude]

but I have been asking this on Private (NOT PUBLIC) Forums on the net, I have been censured and even Banned for the last year and a half just for asking "Can DMT Create Psychic Visions?" The Answer Is of Course "YES"...

How do you know that the answer is YES? Just a gut feeling?

On the DMT-Nexus we like people to back-up their claims, especially if they are as wild as yours. So please don't state your theory as if it is truth.

Kind regards,
The Traveler

DMT Creates Psychic Visions because many Psychics Use It, didn't you know that? And the CIA has been doing work with DMT as it was on Wiki 2 years ago then it just vanished from Wiki like magic a year ago.

This is not my theory, it was another psychic (in the underground as psychics aren't real) that told me this. Psychics are real and DMT Creates Psychic visions for me at least, the endogenous DMT my body creates.

DMT Creates Psychic visions is new information for you??? I can't believe that someone with 2,000 + Posts on this forum doesn't know that DMT Creates Psychic visions.

I can see I am going nowhere with this here just like everywhere else, bye

 

[The Traveler]

but I have been asking this on Private (NOT PUBLIC) Forums on the net, I have been censured and even Banned for the last year and a half just for asking "Can DMT Create Psychic Visions?" The Answer Is of Course "YES"...

How do you know that the answer is YES? Just a gut feeling?

On the DMT-Nexus we like people to back-up their claims, especially if they are as wild as yours. So please don't state your theory as if it is truth.

Kind regards,
The Traveler

DMT Creates Psychic Visions because many Psychics Use It, didn't you know that? And the CIA has been doing work with DMT as it was on Wiki 2 years ago then it just vanished from Wiki like magic a year ago.

This is not my theory, it was another psychic (in the underground as psychics aren't real) that told me this. Psychics are real and DMT Creates Psychic visions for me at least, the endogenous DMT my body creates.

DMT Creates Psychic visions is new information for you??? I can't believe that someone with 2,000 + Posts on this forum doesn't know that DMT Creates Psychic visions.

I can see I am going nowhere with this here just like everywhere else, bye

Sorry to say this but this post of yours just made it clear that it's only a Conspiracy Theory. About half a year ago I announced that no more CT's would be allowed on the DMT-Nexus. That thread also states why no more such topics are allowed.

This topic is now locked.


Kind regards,

The Traveler