Anarkid said:
As an anarchist, I do not believe in a death penalty, or any penial system for that matter. That being said, I am NOT AGAINST killing criminals. Some people just don't deserve to live amongst the rest of us. Everyone should be responsible for their own safety and their own rights. If someone does something harmful to you or your loved ones (family and friends), you do what you feel is necessary to obtain "justice". If you go too far or cross a line, the society around you will take care of you. I know if someone raped or harmed any of my loved ones, they would die. Period. I would walk into the courtroom with a smile on my face and face my "justice" as it came. Say what you will but violence is natural. Every animal on the planet embraces violence from time to time. We are no better. We are not special. I do not believe in agression, but I have no problem responding to violence with greater violence. There is no response to violence except violence. If you have never dealt with violent people than you don't understand this concept so don't speak on it. If you believe that violence can be dealt with peacefully then lets run an experiement. PM me and we will meet somewhere and I'll punch you in the mouth. You try and talk me out of doing it again. Give me flowers, picket signs and posters, the whole nine. See if it works. I promise it won't. What would work is if you punched me back in the mouth harder than I punched you and knocked me unconscious. No more punches in the mouth from this guy. As barbaric and uncivilized as that experiment sounds, it is proof that violence is the only answer to violence.
The problem with a government ran "justice" system is that it makes mistakes. It is corrupt. It is slanted and shows favoritism. A jury of your peers? Peers that will judge you based on how well the prosecution sells them a story. Peers that do not know you or anything about you besides what they've been told. No telling how many innocent men and women have died because of this. I understand my ideals are a little ahead of our time as anarchism could never work with so many imbeciles and lesser humans wondering the earth staring into iPhones, shoveling fast food down their throat on their way to the mall to buy the latest gadgets and fashion requirements. So as long as the government runs the "justice" system I cannot support a death penalty. When you put stupid, power hungry, traditionalist tyrants in charge you will kill innocent people.
This is sort of interesting . . . . from what I gather from reading your posts, your brand of Anarchism is almost identical to LaVeyan Satanism, and I say this because I was once a card-carrying member of the Church of Satan (as far as I know I still am, it was a lifetime membership). Are you familiar with Satanism?
The Nine Satanic Statements
by Anton Szandor LaVey
The Nine Satanic Statements originally appeared in The Satanic Bible, © 1969
1: Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!
2:Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3: Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4: Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5: Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!
6: Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!
7: Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!
8: Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
9: Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!
The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth
1: Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
2: Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
3: When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
4: If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
5: Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
6: Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
7: Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
8: Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
9: Do not harm little children.
10: Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
11: When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.
The Nine Satanic Sins
1: Stupidity
The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid.
2: Pretentiousness
Empty posturing can be most irritating and isn’t applying the cardinal rules of Lesser Magic. On equal footing with stupidity for what keeps the money in circulation these days. Everyone’s made to feel like a big shot, whether they can come up with the goods or not.
3: Solipsism
Can be very dangerous for Satanists. Projecting your reactions, responses and sensibilities onto someone who is probably far less attuned than you are. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy and respect that you naturally give them. They won’t. Instead, Satanists must strive to apply the dictum of “Do unto others as they do unto you.” It’s work for most of us and requires constant vigilance lest you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you. As has been said, certain utopias would be ideal in a nation of philosophers, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, from a Machiavellian standpoint) we are far from that point.
4: Self-deceit
It’s in the “Nine Satanic Statements” but deserves to be repeated here. Another cardinal sin. We must not pay homage to any of the sacred cows presented to us, including the roles we are expected to play ourselves. The only time self-deceit should be entered into is when it’s fun, and with awareness. But then, it’s not self-deceit!
5: Herd Conformity
That’s obvious from a Satanic stance. It’s all right to conform to a person’s wishes, if it ultimately benefits you. But only fools follow along with the herd, letting an impersonal entity dictate to you. The key is to choose a master wisely instead of being enslaved by the whims of the many.
6: Lack of Perspective
Again, this one can lead to a lot of pain for a Satanist. You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, every day. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. Do not be swayed by herd constraints—know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world.
7: Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies
Be aware that this is one of the keys to brainwashing people into accepting something new and different, when in reality it’s something that was once widely accepted but is now presented in a new package. We are expected to rave about the genius of the creator and forget the original. This makes for a disposable society.
8: Counterproductive Pride
That first word is important. Pride is great up to the point you begin to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The rule of Satanism is: if it works for you, great. When it stops working for you, when you’ve painted yourself into a corner and the only way out is to say, I’m sorry, I made a mistake, I wish we could compromise somehow, then do it.
9: Lack of Aesthetics
This is the physical application of the Balance Factor. Aesthetics is important in Lesser Magic and should be cultivated. It is obvious that no one can collect any money off classical standards of beauty and form most of the time so they are discouraged in a consumer society, but an eye for beauty, for balance, is an essential Satanic tool and must be applied for greatest magical effectiveness. It’s not what’s supposed to be pleasing—it’s what is. Aesthetics is a personal thing, reflective of one’s own nature, but there are universally pleasing and harmonious configurations that should not be denied.
Sound familiar???? (And I should not that I still agree with a lot of this, even though I am a mystic these days, working for Light and all that funky jive).
The Church of Satan
