Cappi dosage difference from Ayahuasca to Pharmahusca?

[Volvox]

With Pharmahusca people usually talk about 150mg to 200mg extracted harmalas.

With Ayahuasca people talk about 50 to 100 grams of shredded Cappi vine, soaked, etc.

(Is that right? 100 grams seems like a lot, and I was not able to find many good Ayahuasca recipes using Cappi.)

I ask because I'm extracting the harmalas from Cappi in my 2nd attempt, using 100 grams Cappi vine using this tek:
Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide - DMT-Nexus Wiki

and it seems like he is coming out to a 1.3ish ratio of harmalas. That's about a gram extracted harmalas per 100 grams. Which is what I think I will yeild, from my 100 grams cappi. But Pharmahusca only calls for 200mg harmalas...

Thats a big disparity between the two, what I mean is-
Should I just down the whole gram of extracted stuff from the 100 grams Cappi, or should I take the Pharmahusca noted dosage?

 

[Global]

For the love of god, don't take a gram! Follow the pharma dosage. You can go higher than 200mg if you'd like, but 1g is way overkill.

 

[ouro]

caapi alkaloids are not exactly equivalent to rue alkaloids. people usually refer to rue alkaloids for pharma. Whatever came from 100g vine might be strong if you have a potent vine, but probably wont make you sick like 1.3 g of rue alks.

 

[Global]

caapi alkaloids are not exactly equivalent to rue alkaloids. people usually refer to rue alkaloids for pharma. Whatever came from 100g vine might be strong if you have a potent vine, but probably wont make you sick like 1.3 g of rue alks.

I've gotten just as sick on 50g caapi as I have from 4g of rue. It seems to me that if you have any combination of harmine/harmaline/tetrahydroharmine in their extracted form, 1g would be so far over the top that I can't imagine the technicality of where it happened to originate from will make much difference.

 

[endlessness]

It depends on which caapi, thats the thing. Ive had some caapi that 100g would be an absurd overdose, 20g is more like a dose...

Here's an interesting experiment you can try and let us know: Pulverize or shredd some amount of caapi. Divide it in two batches, half you extract, half you brew normally. Consume the extraction results one day, consume the brew another. That way you can let us know how it compares. I would be very curious on the result

 

[Volvox]

Thanks guys!
So sounds like some traditional recipes, 20 grams is enough, which falls right in line with 200mgs extracted goodness.
endlessness, ill definitely try the extracted/vs traditional at the same relative amounts and post what I find!