changa caapi vine question?!

[Inkling63]

can you make x10 changa using an ipa and shredded vine?

 

[gammagore]

Sure you can make 10x vine. Just let it soak for about 3 weeks and use tghe IPA to enhance the DMT into the leaf.

Enjoy

 

[Inkling63]

smashing!

 

[tele]

Old post but I would like add one question to it:

Is there any point in making changa from caapi vine(small shredded bits) and freebase DMT? Has anyone tried it and how would it change/lenghten the experience? Changa would be vaporized with GVG.

 

[gibran2]

Old post but I would like add one question to it:

Is there any point in making changa from caapi vine(small shredded bits) and freebase DMT? Has anyone tried it and how would it change/lenghten the experience? Changa would be vaporized with GVG.

If you have fairly strong caapi, it might contain 2% alkaloids. If a dose of 1:1 changa is about 60mg (30mg caapi vine), then you’ve got about 0.6mg of alkaloids. I don’t think that’s enough to have any effect at all.

 

[tele]

Old post but I would like add one question to it:

Is there any point in making changa from caapi vine(small shredded bits) and freebase DMT? Has anyone tried it and how would it change/lenghten the experience? Changa would be vaporized with GVG.

If you have fairly strong caapi, it might contain 2% alkaloids. If a dose of 1:1 changa is about 60mg (30mg caapi vine), then you’ve got about 0.6mg of alkaloids. I don’t think that’s enough to have any effect at all.

So one might want to make extract? What would be the recommended strenght, 10x, 20x?

I just considered trying changa. Just DMT combined with the vine's spirit, and I would like to know is it worthwhile by itself and how much does it change the experience.
Is there any sense in making vine extract and then dissolving it into some inactive leafs or should it be dissolved back into the vine?
Any links, experiences or comments on DMT-caapi vine changa are appreciated.

 

[gibran2]

So one might want to make extract? What would be the recommended strenght, 10x, 20x?

I just considered trying changa. Just DMT combined with the vine's spirit, and I would like to know is it worthwhile by itself and how much does it change the experience.
Is there any sense in making vine extract and then dissolving it into some inactive leafs or should it be dissolved back into the vine?
Any links, experiences or comments on DMT-caapi vine changa are appreciated.

Yes, an extract is usually made.
I'm not a fan of changa (I prefer sublingual caapi alkaloids) so to get answers to your questions, check out the Changa sub-forum.

 

[tele]

Yes, an extract is usually made.
I'm not a fan of changa (I prefer sublingual caapi alkaloids) so to get answers to your questions, check out the Changa sub-forum.

Taking sublingual caapi prior to blastoff seems like a good idea. Can you please post a link with more information on this? Such as duration(s) and preparation... Thanks

PS. can the caapi-dmt changa be vaporized in VG or does it need combustion?

 

[gibran2]

Taking sublingual caapi prior to blastoff seems like a good idea. Can you please post a link with more information on this? Such as duration(s) and preparation... Thanks

PS. can the caapi-dmt changa be vaporized in VG or does it need combustion?

I use 15-30mg sublingual caapi extracted alkaloids 30 minutes (or more) before taking the DMT. It provides a slower, more gentle experience (most of the time), extends the peak only slightly, but extends the come-down period quite a bit. A sub-breakthrough dose of DMT taken after sublingual caapi alkaloids is very much like a 30-45 minute pharma experience.

I've only used changa in a bong, but I think others have used in in the GVG without problems.