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Changa causing fever and other bad symptoms?!

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DoorSeeker

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I was putting two and two together with another discussion I was having and this thread about changa causing asthma and flu symptoms. Forum Error

I smoked a bowl of changa the other day and the next day I didn't feel well. Basically the same symptoms described in the thread I linked above. My chest felt very heavy, had a fever part of the day and felt weak. My changa is pretty simple. It's 10x from b caapi in acetone. Mullein is the base. I noticed my changa catches a small flame to it if I put the flame directly on it. I'm extra careful about letting it dry out. I leave it sit out for a couple days after the smell of acetone is completely gone. Is it possible that some solvent is trapped in the changa that never evaporates out and this is what is causing the symptoms that people are having? I checked the msds of the acetone that I have and there is nothing else in it. Here's the problem with that theory though. Looking at the symptoms for inhalation on the website below, fever is not a symptom. Acetone

Could their just be some sort of acute negative symptoms from smoking changa? Could the accounts just be coincidence? I have smoked changa from this batch a couple times before this and didn't have this issue. Besides, with how common acetone is used in nail polish remover wouldn't you hear about fever symptoms from inhaling it while using it?

If the solvent is the issue, a more food safe solvent could be used as a control in some sort of informal experiment. I guess the million dollar question is, has someone used Everclear as their solvent and still experienced these symptoms.
 
Let it dry for a few more days. I would give IPA a try because is cheap, easy to find and free of adulterants. I let it dry for 7 days the first 3 under a fan and it works out great everytime. Then if IPA doesnt work buy a GVG and smoke freebase lol.
 
I had terrible fever and illness from changa last week also. Not really sure what caused it but I think it's because the leaf wasn't fully dried. It's very possible it was a virus that took advantage of the window too. It's hard to tell. You're not alone.

I put the leaf back to dry, but I'm too scared to smoke it now. A friend tried a little last night and he had no side effects. It may be the symptoms came from me alone, so it seems like a good time for a longer break for me in any case.
 
Running Bear said:
Let it dry for a few more days. I would give IPA a try because is cheap, easy to find and free of adulterants. I let it dry for 7 days the first 3 under a fan and it works out great everytime. Then if IPA doesnt work buy a GVG and smoke freebase lol.


I opened it back up and I'm letting it dry again. Do you mean pure IPA? I can't find pure IPA anywhere. If it's not pure IPA it should take significantly longer to dry than pure acetone. It evaporates surpisingly quick. Don't worry, I've got the gvg freebase thing down pretty well at this point. 😉
 
Its not going to oxidize as much as you think lol. Always let it dry longer than people recommend because people are crazy. No one ever wants to clean there dmt freebase or properly dry there changa because there more worried about loseing a little dmt than being safe lol.
 
Northerner said:
I had terrible fever and illness from changa last week also. Not really sure what caused it but I think it's because the leaf wasn't fully dried. It's very possible it was a virus that took advantage of the window too. It's hard to tell. You're not alone.

I put the leaf back to dry, but I'm too scared to smoke it now. A friend tried a little last night and he had no side effects. It may be the symptoms came from me alone, so it seems like a good time for a longer break for me in any case.

I totally sympathize with you. I'm afraid to try mine anymore too. What's strange is the first couple of times I didn't have this problem. I really think more time and energy should be spent on this forum getting to the bottom of exactly what this issue is and how to solve it. I just have a hard time believing that traces of solvent so small the they can't be detected by smell could cause such adverse reactions, not to mention it should burn when the lighter hits it anyway.

I know there are a lot of people on here who seriously question the idea that it may be Serotonin Syndrome; supposedly because of the idea that harmalas are MAOI-As instead of MAOI-B but is this really that well established? The more I read about SS, the more I think it might be a mild version of it. Even this is interesting considering my symptoms didn't arise until the next day, "Onset of symptoms is typically within a day of the extra serotonin."
 
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