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Chants and Sacred Music

This is a very fine example of older style of sanksrit from the Veda. If you take a few moments to hear it you will feel the immense of power of the language, the rhythm, the melody/tonality, the precision and deep spiritual feeling. It's not hard to understand why this language is supposedly divinely inspired, don't you think? Enjoy!

 
Thank you for these examples. Just looking at Sanskrit sounds and how they are structured hints at divine inspiration. In tantric texts, one can see how different sounds affect points in our energy, or subtle body. That part of the language, if anything, came from a very fine understanding of the human system. It is far beyond us in the modern world, which has no structure at all for this part of reality.

In my opinion, Sanskrit scholars are superior to Western Ph.D. holders. Simply by working with this language, they develop both mental and energetic capacities. Many of our high-profile intellectuals get interested in Sanskrit later in life. This just shows that you need a certain level of development to see its value.

I think that's why the British Empire considered India a barbarian country for a long time. They simply had a long way to go in their cultural development to see the subtle value of Indian heritage.

Even Tibetans took Sanskrit as the base for their language, but they never translate mantras because of their sound signature. I think the sounds themselves came from a higher realm. You need to zoom out a bit to see the whole picture. Similarly, only being in a very high state allows one to see our energy body in all its fullness.

I don't think Sanskrit is the only inspired language, but it is the one that has survived to this day. This just shows the amount of blessings and momentum behind it.
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@northape It's very appropriate to bring up the tantric texts in the context of this discussion. Are you familiar with the kashmiri sage Abhinavagupta who lived in the 10th-11th century CE? He is considered as a systemazier of the huge tantric corpus among other things he had done and accomplished. In his works Abhinavagupta developed a cosmogenic theory using the sanskrit alphabet as the basis. It is very interesting and quite complex but worth of a sanskrit enthusiast looking into it. Let me know, if you're interested (or anyone else for that matter) and I'll give you some of the material I have. It's not an easy read though.
 
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@northape It's very appropriate to bring up the tantric texts in the context of this discussion. Are you familiar with the kashmiri sage Abhinavagupta who lived in the 10th-11th century CE? He is considered as a systemazier of the huge tantric corpus among other things he had done and accomplished. In his works Abhinavagupta developed a cosmogenic theory using the sanskrit alphabet as the basis. It is very interesting and quite complex but worth of a sanskrit enthusiast looking into it. Let me know, if you're interested (or anyone else for that matter) and I'll give you some of the material I have. It's not an easy read though.
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This forum would fall into the tantric category from a spiritual perspective, imo. Psychedelics are skillful means toward achieving unity with God.

Yes, I was thinking about Kashmir Shaivism when I mentioned tantra. It seems to be the most readily available information on Hindu tantra in the West. I'm still waiting for a good translation of Kaula texts. I feel they are the closest to the Dzogchen tradition, and Kali fascinates me. Please share your material. Just looking through it could provide more insight and a greater love for Sanskrit.

Another example I know of is The Song of the Vajra from the Tibetan tradition. It's written in the language of Oddiyana, and each syllable hits a specific energetic point. The late Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche famously taught it in the West. This sonic manipulation of our subtle body plays a significant role in tantric spiritual practices. I wish more people were interested in it.
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Great! We seem to know the same materials. It does make sense that Kashmiri tradition is most well known because of the 'westerners' who studied with Swami Lakshmanjoo and also because of the nature of Abhiniavagupta actually arranging the huge and scatered tantrik tradition into something that makes sense from different angles.

Oddiyana is such a mystical place about which I would love to know more.

This book as a whole will be of much use to you or anyone who is interested in tantra in general or more specifically in the Kashmiri evolutes of Tantra.
Regarding cosmogenesis from sanskrit alphabet you will find first explanations in the second chapter which is then developed more in the following chapters.
 

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Great thread here! Here's a link to the Green Tara practice I like to do, which I mostly do while washing dishes (blending the sacred and mundane, so to speak).

Audio — Tulku Thondup

Audio Guided Meditations
www.tulkuthondup.com www.tulkuthondup.com

I'd love to try it during a journey, which I'm sure would be powerful.

Many (many) years ago, I tried chanting OM during a cactus journey, which worked really well. After a while, it felt like I was being chanted, or like the sound was coming through me, which seemed noteworthy.
 
ommani said:
Great thread here! Here's a link to the Green Tara practice I like to do, which I mostly do while washing dishes (blending the sacred and mundane, so to speak).

Audio — Tulku Thondup

Audio Guided Meditations
www.tulkuthondup.com www.tulkuthondup.com

I'd love to try it during a journey, which I'm sure would be powerful.

Many (many) years ago, I tried chanting OM during a cactus journey, which worked really well. After a while, it felt like I was being chanted, or like the sound was coming through me, which seemed noteworthy.
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Tulku Thondup was a fine teacher from old Tibet. They do not make them like that anymore.

Long tracks are the best for ceremonies. I often use "Sri Ram Kirtan Sadhana" by Krishna Das. It clears anything that bothers me or any energetic imbalance.
He has lots of nice long tracks. Simple mantras or seed syllables work the best. In a strong medicine session, I cannot sing something more complex than a seed syllable, anyway. So, it will be ram, om, hung, or something like that. They all give a different energetic effect, though. Hung is a good one for scary, negative situations. Hanuman Chalisa works in a protective and cleansing way, too. Tara's Mantra connects me with the divine feminine or the Goddess. It is a bit sad, but a very powerful, life-affirming incantation. Chanting Om for hours could most likely give a transcendental experience. I saw it leading in that direction a few times. I would like to try more Buddhist mantras, but I am kind of in love with Ram, Hanuman, and the Goddess. All of these mantras are different aspects of one energy field, imo. Call it Buddha nature or Brahman; it all leads in the same direction. However, energetic nuances are endless, and so we have many deities. I wish more people explored this side of medicine work.

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Recently stumbled upon an old psychedelic album that I used to frequently listen to during changa yoga/movement over a decade ago. I think @jamie posted it originally all those years ago

The first 2 tracks in particular...Some great vocal sounds and higher pitched stuff.

I don't think its on spotify but definitely youtube soundcloud and bandcamp


alephzerorecords.bandcamp.com

In Search of a Meaningful Moment, by Shulman

8 track album
alephzerorecords.bandcamp.com alephzerorecords.bandcamp.com

on.soundcloud.com

Shulman - In Search of a Meaningful Moment

Listen to Shulman - In Search of a Meaningful Moment by slicebice #np on #SoundCloud
on.soundcloud.com on.soundcloud.com
 
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