I know that making videos about the effects of or the use of dmt to post on YouTube isn't exactly something that is approved of on this forum, for obvious reasons, but that doesn't mean that I can't make a video just for you guys on this forum to watch, does it? Also I'm wondering if there's anyone out there who knows of a reliable program that I could use to recreate what I see while on dmt, as of right now I haven't had the ability to try it yet, but there's plenty I can recreate from the stuff I can imagine and see after smoking cannabis. Does anyone have any sort of CGI program that they use? I know that the majority will cost money, but I can imagine that some could be free, or at least have a trial version I can try it out. It's interesting because I could type out everything in detail what I can visualize, but to me that's just way too much to read and it would be easier if I could just recreate it.
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I'll give you all the money you'll need after you show me successful capture of hyperspace. I suggest you try it first before thinking you can capture it to a PC program. Cannabis and DMT can't be compared in terms of visual "hallucinations".
Not to sound like a bummer but don't you think there would be already plenty of genuine hyperspace art if it would be easy to capture? I've seen none so far, but giger's biomechanical works kind of ring the bell, except they're way dark.
Reconstruction from brain activity may be the key here.
Not sure how this would be acomplished at home though. Still very interesting in my opinion.
Not sure how this would be acomplished at home though. Still very interesting in my opinion.
I hate to use the word impossible, so I won't... but I will say that I can personally see no possible way of transposing an experience that, for me, often has many more than 3 spatial dimensions onto a 2 dimensional screen. There is some art that has something of the nature of a dmt trip (as mentioned, giger and also alex grey) but really I've seen nothing that even comes close to an accurate representation of hyperspace.
I guess it's just one of those things that until I actually get to try dmt, I'll have to take your word for it. And yeah, I assumed that what I'd be able to imagine on cannabis would be nothing compared to dmt, so would anyone know of a program that I could use to transpose what I can visualize while on cannabis?
I think you are wasting your time. It's like me trying to create a documentary on Rome when I've never been to Italy. "But there's plenty I can recreate from visiting the miniature golf course with a Roman theme!"WEM said:
simpledata
Rising Star
You will definitely have to use Adobe AfterEffects.
I've been looking through a bunch of images on Google of DMT art, in an attempt to find something that looks like what I saw but cannot find anything that even remotely resembles my visions. Are visions totally unique to the individual?
I noticed that the first few times I did DMT, the visions were always very similar but fainter and harder to see. Today I had my first breakthrough dose and finally saw the visions to their fullest extent, thus far. The comparison is like the first black and white tv compared to 1080p, but the visions were the same, if that makes sense.
I would like to create, if possible, computer generated art of what I saw. Is it possible? And if it is, what software do I need?
I noticed that the first few times I did DMT, the visions were always very similar but fainter and harder to see. Today I had my first breakthrough dose and finally saw the visions to their fullest extent, thus far. The comparison is like the first black and white tv compared to 1080p, but the visions were the same, if that makes sense.
I would like to create, if possible, computer generated art of what I saw. Is it possible? And if it is, what software do I need?
Well, like Tele was saying,... If it was even remotely simple to create hyperspatial art, we'd see it posted all over this website.
While sober, the human mind is hopelessly stuck in 3D space. We can only visualize higher dimensions through metaphor. Some of the better psychedelic art successfully hints at higher dimensions, or timelessness, or the fractal nature of reality. But it's always through clever use of metaphor and language rather than actual higher dimensional depictions.
I think it's possible to recreate a sense of the color and light of the place, and I'd love to see more jeweled faceted structural spaces depicted. But this stuff is really hard to draw. Trust me, I do art for a living and I've spent much of my career trying to capture a sense of that space (see my stuff in the Art Bin in music/art/literature). Although these are paintings, I rely heavily on 3D programs, photoshop, clay models etc. to achieve these kind of realistic effectS (all of them programs that cost $). The major pieces like the ones in Art Bin each took the better part of a year. It's massively labor consumptive yet still falls short-by miles and miles- of the real DMT experience.
But don't let that stop you from trying! I've seen some very trippy stuff done with Apophysis.
While sober, the human mind is hopelessly stuck in 3D space. We can only visualize higher dimensions through metaphor. Some of the better psychedelic art successfully hints at higher dimensions, or timelessness, or the fractal nature of reality. But it's always through clever use of metaphor and language rather than actual higher dimensional depictions.
I think it's possible to recreate a sense of the color and light of the place, and I'd love to see more jeweled faceted structural spaces depicted. But this stuff is really hard to draw. Trust me, I do art for a living and I've spent much of my career trying to capture a sense of that space (see my stuff in the Art Bin in music/art/literature). Although these are paintings, I rely heavily on 3D programs, photoshop, clay models etc. to achieve these kind of realistic effectS (all of them programs that cost $). The major pieces like the ones in Art Bin each took the better part of a year. It's massively labor consumptive yet still falls short-by miles and miles- of the real DMT experience.
But don't let that stop you from trying! I've seen some very trippy stuff done with Apophysis.
parallelwhispers
Deceased
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Maybe mapping the blueprint for your art piece while you're in the other realm would work. If you find yourself capable of concentrating on a piece of paper while hyperspace impresses the entire knowledge of the universe on you.
Of course you could try a pre-breakthrough dose and get some pretty cool interpretations.
You could also try to layer some trips together, mark similarities, maybe do the stencil pre-breakthrough and then do a breakthrough dose and go at it with whatever medium you like to use for color.
Then you'd have an actual image to focus on while trying to recreate your trip on a computer program.
I don't have much skill when it comes to putting what I visualize on paper, or I might try such things myself.
I would definitely be extremely interested in viewing such art though.
Maybe mapping the blueprint for your art piece while you're in the other realm would work. If you find yourself capable of concentrating on a piece of paper while hyperspace impresses the entire knowledge of the universe on you.
Of course you could try a pre-breakthrough dose and get some pretty cool interpretations.
You could also try to layer some trips together, mark similarities, maybe do the stencil pre-breakthrough and then do a breakthrough dose and go at it with whatever medium you like to use for color.
Then you'd have an actual image to focus on while trying to recreate your trip on a computer program.
I don't have much skill when it comes to putting what I visualize on paper, or I might try such things myself.
I would definitely be extremely interested in viewing such art though.
parallelwhispers said:
When I did that stenciling, I should note that I have like pretty low visually artistic talent (luckily I'm a good musician), so I made that by having my pencil trace the contours of the holographic lines "verbatim" (I know this is the wrong word, but I hope you know what I mean). Of course since the hologram is in constant flux, it was constantly "re-routing" me to different parts of the hologram. It still came out fracal-esque because of the fractal nature of holograms. I have no doubt that more experienced artists/stencilers would be able to trace faster to come up with a bit more accurate versions of the actual hologram (or whatever visual you project). Stenciling of course doesn't really tackle the multidimensional issue, but when I look at my drawing, I can feel that it does affect my mind in some way. It's somehow relaxing to look at those geometries, and perhaps its because its from hyperspace's blueprint.
Pup Tentacle
lettuce
I'm happy to use the word impossible and I'd be even happier to be proven wrong.
It's imposssible to put a DMT experience into 2 (or even 3) dimensions with a limited color gamut. I think some very wonderful approximations can be arrived at, but good luck fitting infinity onto/into anything.
The problem I always have isn't finding tools to make the art... it's being able to understand/describe what I "saw" well enough to try and capture it.
It's imposssible to put a DMT experience into 2 (or even 3) dimensions with a limited color gamut. I think some very wonderful approximations can be arrived at, but good luck fitting infinity onto/into anything.
The problem I always have isn't finding tools to make the art... it's being able to understand/describe what I "saw" well enough to try and capture it.
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