CuriousChemist
Rising Star
- Merits
- 42
Edit: Maybe this would be better posted in the "Ayahuasca" section, but I wasn't too sure. My main questions pertain to the "Extraction" method for this brew so I posted it here but I'll move it to a different section if you feel it doesn't belong here. 
Hello Let me start by introducing myself I suppose. I've been following these forums for quite awhile but have never bothered to make an account up until now, since I now live in an area where one could obtain a DMT containing plant if one wanted to. I know you can order online too, but SWIM prefers the actual full experience of harvesting the plant because SWIM feels a spiritual connection to the tree when doing so. it so happens that Acacia Confusa grows abundantly in Hawaii, (in fact it's invasive, and everywhere!). SWIM went out and harvested root bark and stripped it/shredded it.
Now, SWIM has read tons of articles about Acacia Confusa aka "Rainbow Tree" being unique in that it does NOT require a MAO Inhibitor. Some people have confirmed this, some people have denied this. A common belief is that since A. Confusa contains ~1.4% DMT (.4% more than hostilis), that it's possible that some of the DMT gets processed because there is such a high concentration and the MAOs in the body can't essentially "destroy" all of the DMT. (Not 100% on the accuracy of that but it kind of makes sense).
So, SWIM has filled up about half an empty water bottle with root bark and has plenty to experiment with. SWIM took about maybe 7 or 8 strips and shredded them and crushed them into a small chunky "woodchip" looking compost, with plenty of surface area exposed. Then placed them into a mason jar filled with distilled room temperature water (basically a Jurema-tea preperation with Confusa). SWIM plans to leave it like that for 48 hours, then filter out plant material while pouring liquid into a different container. From there, SWIM will run egg whites through it to remove tannins, and then filter out liquid again, and refrigerate it overnight. The brew will be consumed without a MAOI to see if it's true that Confusa does not require one. The idea in all of this is to eventually, (through trial-and-error) create a reasonably enjoyable-tasting "iced-tea" that sends you into another realm. Stupid idea? Nope. Different? Very. lol.
I've read people doing similar things but none of them ever update their threads and post results. They just say "I'm gonna try it, will post results" and then the thread ends :\ So my questions in all of this are as follows:
1.) Has anyone tried this method or any cold water extraction methods with this plant or a different plant? If so, what were your results?
2.) Do you think this could work? If so or if not, please explain
3.) I've heard about honey being added to Jurema. Could one add sugar or even better, Xylitol (a natural tree-based sugar sold in packets and used as a healthy alternative to sugar, very indistinguishable) in the brew? Or is there some chemical effect that'll ruin the brew?
4.) With the egg white process, I've heard that the brew has to be lightly simmered when adding the egg whites. SWIM wants to avoid heating of any kind so could he just take raw egg whites and mix them into the cool mixture to remove tannins or do tannins only stick to egg whites under heat? I would think it could work with any temperature but I could be wrong.
SWIM is going to try this in a few days once a little more time has passed for extraction and unlike many, SWIM will actually post results ! lol. Thank you for reading and any help is appreciated.
Hello
Let me start by introducing myself I suppose. I've been following these forums for quite awhile but have never bothered to make an account up until now, since I now live in an area where one could obtain a DMT containing plant if one wanted to. I know you can order online too, but SWIM prefers the actual full experience of harvesting the plant because SWIM feels a spiritual connection to the tree when doing so. it so happens that Acacia Confusa grows abundantly in Hawaii, (in fact it's invasive, and everywhere!). SWIM went out and harvested root bark and stripped it/shredded it. Now, SWIM has read tons of articles about Acacia Confusa aka "Rainbow Tree" being unique in that it does NOT require a MAO Inhibitor. Some people have confirmed this, some people have denied this. A common belief is that since A. Confusa contains ~1.4% DMT (.4% more than hostilis), that it's possible that some of the DMT gets processed because there is such a high concentration and the MAOs in the body can't essentially "destroy" all of the DMT. (Not 100% on the accuracy of that but it kind of makes sense).
So, SWIM has filled up about half an empty water bottle with root bark and has plenty to experiment with. SWIM took about maybe 7 or 8 strips and shredded them and crushed them into a small chunky "woodchip" looking compost, with plenty of surface area exposed. Then placed them into a mason jar filled with distilled room temperature water (basically a Jurema-tea preperation with Confusa). SWIM plans to leave it like that for 48 hours, then filter out plant material while pouring liquid into a different container. From there, SWIM will run egg whites through it to remove tannins, and then filter out liquid again, and refrigerate it overnight. The brew will be consumed without a MAOI to see if it's true that Confusa does not require one. The idea in all of this is to eventually, (through trial-and-error) create a reasonably enjoyable-tasting "iced-tea" that sends you into another realm. Stupid idea? Nope. Different? Very. lol.
I've read people doing similar things but none of them ever update their threads and post results. They just say "I'm gonna try it, will post results" and then the thread ends :\ So my questions in all of this are as follows:
1.) Has anyone tried this method or any cold water extraction methods with this plant or a different plant? If so, what were your results?
2.) Do you think this could work? If so or if not, please explain
3.) I've heard about honey being added to Jurema. Could one add sugar or even better, Xylitol (a natural tree-based sugar sold in packets and used as a healthy alternative to sugar, very indistinguishable) in the brew? Or is there some chemical effect that'll ruin the brew?
4.) With the egg white process, I've heard that the brew has to be lightly simmered when adding the egg whites. SWIM wants to avoid heating of any kind so could he just take raw egg whites and mix them into the cool mixture to remove tannins or do tannins only stick to egg whites under heat? I would think it could work with any temperature but I could be wrong.
SWIM is going to try this in a few days once a little more time has passed for extraction and unlike many, SWIM will actually post results ! lol. Thank you for reading and any help is appreciated.
would love to hear it. and does the method you mentioned work? with the vinegar and simmering? i was originally gonna do that but then i heard about this mystery alkaloid that might possibly be destroyed by heat and vinegar
