Converting jimjam to a pure freebase

[dmtmd]

I have been reading up on methods of converting jimjam acetate into pure dmt by utilizing dry ipa and fumeric acid. Is there any food safe way to go about this even if the product in purity slightly?

Thanks in advanced for your responses!

 

[TGO]

You can use heat to freebase DMT acetates. That seems pretty food safe to me! Hope this helps!

There seem to be plenty of misunderstanding here;

What q21q21 is demonstrating is that what dmt acetate is heated then this salt breaks apart to dmt freebase and acetic acid. The acetic acid then evaporates and leaves back dmt freebase.

This is a definitely a novel and amazing finding; it means that having dmt acetate is convenient both for oral dosing and for smoking (since it can be converted easily to freebase by heating.

It also provides a good mechanism to explain some spurious observations; if one has evaporated his dmt acetate pull at too high a temperature he may also evaporate a good amount of the acetic acid and the freebase as well.

If one persists on applying gentle heat on the dmt acetate it will convert to freebase. If one has dmt acetate and is solid-ish it may be the result of "accidental" freebasing" (Note this when it comes to dosage). The latter should be fairly insoluble in water (as opposed to the dmt acetate).

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Am I that confused or isn't acetate the salt form. You keep referring to the "freebase" over and over again. I thought when one re-pulls with vinegar from Limonene that you are now in Salt mode as opposed to base. Am I missing something?

assuming of of the lettered methods were used a completely smokable freebase jimjam product (1) is achieved. (tested)
(the heat from the evaporation vaporizes the acetates since the flash point of acetic acid is 39C. The process leaves the freebase behind)

It's a process that is not new, but is disscussed more in this thread

Breakthough on jimjam acetates, just as potent as freebase no doubt. - DMT Experiences - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

 

[dmtmd]

Thanks for your contribution!

What q21 was talking about there is a way to make freebase jimjam, which isnt any more crystal than regular jimjam. His method is definitely useful if your looking to smoke jimjam though.

 

[TGO]

Ah, right you are!



However, this guy had some luck with heating his freebase and crystals appearing the next day. I don't know if this happened to other people or if it was an isolated incident but...

holy crap it worked....i had some freebase jimjam lying around..so i put about 100mg in some vinegar...and then evaporated the vinegar...left it on the heat until i couldnt smell acetic acid anymore...and then took it off the heat...and let it sit overnight...when i looked at it this morning i see freebase dmt crystals spreading across the glass


and yea there are a few particles of dust there...

This is the thread it was from:

*PROOF* Freebasing acetates with only heat (to white crystals *pic*) - Advanced/Enhanced chemistry - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

 

[DreaMTripper]

Mini acid-base to turn goo/wax to crystals

 

[stitch]

Hello everyone! This is my first post here and I want to use it to express my graditude to you guys. I heard about our favourite molecule a couple of months ago and started doing researches about it. Soon enough i landed here and am finally an official member. This thread helped me a lot since the last thing i did not understand about q21s tek is the convertion to freebase. I smoked dmt once and it changed my life forever. Ever since then i am thinking about making my own extract( which will happen around 2 weeks time from now). I just want to say again how awesome you all guys are and especially q21 who further motivated me with his awesome and detailed guide. Peace out!

 

[dmtmd]

Thanks for all of your replies, I like your profile pic the grateful one, dreamtripper I have a quick question as to how that applies to my situation. Lets say i have jimjam suspended in an acetic acid solution, from what i can gather I would basify then get the dmt back into nonpolar lemonene, then i would re-acidify and discard the lemonene on top. Then I could just evap the acid solution into crystals whenever I wanted to smoke.

Thanks for your help

 

[dmtmd]

bumpity

 

[DreaMTripper]

I havent tried the vinegar enhanced leaf/changa but Ive heard its quite rough on the chest and you certainly dont end up with crystals.
You would be better off evaporating it to a goo then doing a paste and pull and using dry IPA to dissolve the freebase then evaporating that down to a a smaller volume and then enhancing leaf or making a changa.

 

[dmtmd]

Cool so basically using dry ipa i can get crystals out of jimjam?

 

[DreaMTripper]

Possibly, it can be done if the extract is mainly DMT and the IPA is evaporated slowly.
Otherwise as I mentioned before..

Mini acid-base to turn goo/wax to crystals

Providing it is mostly DMT..