Crystals vanishing

[Rno]

Hello,
I just extracted dmt crystals using Minty love's dptek1 yesterday and stored them in 2 mini glass jars of jam of 50g. One was for the more white crystals and the other for yellower crystals. But today I opened both jars to check on them and the white crystals have totally disappeared and have been replaced by a transparent and sticky goo while the yellow crystals are still a bit visible but very wet and also covered in goo. The temperature in the room was about 30 degrees celcius all day long. I wonder why this storage method was inapropriate and if its possible to turn the goo back into crystals ?

 

[Sakkadelic]

Hi Rno,

It looks like your xtlas melted into goo due to the high temperature. How long was it after you finished the tek and stored them? And did you make sure they were thoroughly dried with a fan?

To obtain xtals again, redissolve in a minimal amount of naphtha and freeze precipitate. Or allow the small amount of naphtha to evaporate undisturbed for a few days, this will result in bigger xtals.

 

[Transform]

Hello,
I just extracted dmt crystals using Minty love's dptek1 yesterday and stored them in 2 mini glass jars of jam of 50g. One was for the more white crystals and the other for yellower crystals. But today I opened both jars to check on them and the white crystals have totally disappeared and have been replaced by a transparent and sticky goo while the yellow crystals are still a bit visible but very wet and also covered in goo. The temperature in the room was about 30 degrees celcius all day long. I wonder why this storage method was inapropriate and if its possible to turn the goo back into crystals ?

The high temperature won't have helped at all, and if there was a little solvent residue left on your crystals they'd definitely melt under those conditions.

One question - were the jars exposed to light at all?

Polymerisation can also be associated with goo formation, so your best course of action is like to be the mini A/B process, which is more or less just running the extraction again at the far smaller scale defined by the amount of goo you're dealing with.

Simple recrystallisation, while it's often good at cleaning up the product, won't break up polymeric goo so you'd likely see a considerably diminished final yield with that.

 

[Sakkadelic]

The high temperature won't have helped at all, and if there was a little solvent residue left on your crystals they'd definitely melt under those conditions.

One question - were the jars exposed to light at all?

Polymerisation can also be associated with goo formation, so your best course of action is like to be the mini A/B process, which is more or less just running the extraction again at the far smaller scale defined by the amount of goo you're dealing with.

Simple recrystallisation, while it's often good at cleaning up the product, won't break up polymeric goo so you'd likely see a considerably diminished final yield with that.

Would a non polymerized goo eventually dry up and xtalise?

 

[Transform]

Would a non polymerized goo eventually dry up and xtalise?

Still kind of depends why it's a goo, and what the ambient conditions are. If those conditions - e.g. lower 'comfortable' temperature, high enough purity, absence of both light and solvent residue, and no remnants of base - are suitable then it's not impossible.

 

[Rno]

The high temperature won't have helped at all, and if there was a little solvent residue left on your crystals they'd definitely melt under those conditions.

One question - were the jars exposed to light at all?

Polymerisation can also be associated with goo formation, so your best course of action is like to be the mini A/B process, which is more or less just running the extraction again at the far smaller scale defined by the amount of goo you're dealing with.

Simple recrystallisation, while it's often good at cleaning up the product, won't break up polymeric goo so you'd likely see a considerably diminished final yield with that.

The jars were in a shelf not exposed to direct sunlight but still in a bright room. as soon as i found the crystals had disappeared, I put the jars under a small fan and just came back a few hours later and they seamed to "reappear" but not in the form of crystals and still covered in goo : the white crystal dont look like crystals anymore but rather as if the bottom of the jar was freezing and the yellow crystals now look like a wet pile

 

[Rno]

Hi Rno,

It looks like your xtlas melted into goo due to the high temperature. How long was it after you finished the tek and stored them? And did you make sure they were thoroughly dried with a fan?

To obtain xtals again, redissolve in a minimal amount of naphtha and freeze precipitate. Or allow the small amount of naphtha to evaporate undisturbed for a few days, this will result in bigger xtals.

after finishing the tek, i froze them then pipeted away the left naphta and then blew over the crystals with a fan for a whole day

 

[Rno]

what is also weird is I had a very small amount of the crystals stored in small plastic containers just next to the jars and they have not been transformed to goo

 

[Transform]

what is also weird is I had a very small amount of the crystals stored in small plastic containers just next to the jars and they have not been transformed to goo

This kind of implies to me that the material in the glass jars succumbed to solvent residue which would be able to diffuse out of/through plastic, perhaps. What kind of plastic containers are they?

 

[Rno]

This kind of implies to me that the material in the glass jars succumbed to solvent residue which would be able to diffuse out of/through plastic, perhaps. What kind of plastic containers are they?

They are tiny 50mg plastic flasks which are made to put inside the drug you want to send for analyzing in a lab. Maybe more adequate than orange jam jars . So you think by adding naphtha again then freezing ill be able to reobtain crystals and evap the whole solvent again ?

 

[Transform]

So you think by adding naphtha again then freezing ill be able to reobtain crystals and evap the whole solvent again ?

Recrystallisation is an established technique, and essentially like freeze-precipitating from naphtha pulls, except you'd want to use the minimum amount of naphtha that's warm but not above DMT's melting point. If you still have intact crstals in your plastic sample tubes, you could use a few of those to seed your crystallisation.

However, this won't break up any polymerised goo, which is where a mini A/B would come in - dissolve all the goo in acid, then proceed as though you're just doing a miniature extraction. The acidic phase does help break up the goo.

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Which Non polar solvent? - Naphtha (petroleum ether 100-120) or (40-60) 60-80 fractions) - for freeze-precipitating

Bonjour fellow space rangers and keepers of the faith, could someone tell me if my (Non polar solvent) - Naphtha (petroleum ether 100-120) will work or will I need to use 40-60 or 60-80 fractions) - for freeze-precipitating from (finely shredded MHRB + Sodium Hydroxide) And just incase I can...

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[Rno]

Recrystallisation is an established technique, and essentially like freeze-precipitating from naphtha pulls, except you'd want to use the minimum amount of naphtha that's warm but not above DMT's melting point. If you still have intact crstals in your plastic sample tubes, you could use a few of those to seed your crystallisation.

However, this won't break up any polymerised goo, which is where a mini A/B would come in - dissolve all the goo in acid, then proceed as though you're just doing a miniature extraction. The acidic phase does help break up the goo.

Post in thread 'Reusing Naphtha resulting in more jungle spice'

Nov 9, 2025

Link to link to mini A/B description:

Which Non polar solvent? - Naphtha (petroleum ether 100-120) or (40-60) 60-80 fractions) - for freeze-precipitating

Bonjour fellow space rangers and keepers of the faith, could someone tell me if my (Non polar solvent) - Naphtha (petroleum ether 100-120) will work or will I need to use 40-60 or 60-80 fractions) - for freeze-precipitating from (finely shredded MHRB + Sodium Hydroxide) And just incase I can...

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Ok thank you so can I first try recrystallisation and if it isnt enough then do the mini A/B ?

 

[Transform]

Ok thank you so can I first try recrystallisation and if it isnt enough then do the mini A/B ?

Personally, I'd go straight for the mini A/B - using two processes will compound your losses.

 

[Rno]

Personally, I'd go straight for the mini A/B - using two processes will compound your losses.

Ok thank you !

 

[Rno]

Personally, I'd go straight for the mini A/B - using two processes will compound your losses.

I just have a few questions on your guide for the mini A/B. "The DMT-loaded vinegar can then be treated like the first step of an A/B extraction, with the addition of just enough base, maybe a bit of salt [NaCl] for good measure and then wroceed with warm pulls into the minimum volume of naphtha or heptane." Could you describe it more in detail please ? What temp is a warm pull and why use warm pulls ? Should I add the base and salt directly to the dmt vinegar or prepare a water based solution and mix the two ? How do I know the aproximate quantities to use ? And if I use a very small volume of solvent, the proportion that's really hard to pipette out without getting the base too will be quite big ?