enlightenedvoyager
Rising Star
So I will be attempting Cybs hybrid a/b salt tek in the next month or two. I'm currently at the reading, re-reading n taking notes stage. From my notes I have some questions regarding certain steps which I want to get 100% clear n straight in my head before proceeding with the tek.
I apologies in advance if any of these questions have been asked before. I've used the search function n couldn't find anything concrete. However, I'm a total noob at this so might not be searching for the correct terms.
Apologies again if anything I ask here sounds stupid to you but I failed miserably at chemistry lol. I'm going into this blind n learning from scratch as I go, hence all the reading, re-reading n notes.
Anyway, here's where I'm at.
Can I use a slow cooker ( think this is a crockpot elsewhere ) for the heat baths? If so, which heat setting, warm, low or high? Though the tek says this is a warm tek, not hot so imagine not high.
What's the ideal temp as I'll be using a thermometer?
Step 3 - acidifying
Here's what it says ( copied n pasted from the tek )
1. Put 200ml De-ionised water in a pan, add 60ml vinegar and bring to just boiling.
2. Pour the acidic solution into the mixing bottle.
3. Put some tap water in a pan and bring to the boil, then turn OFF the heat. (The mix throughout this tek should be 'Warm' NOT 'Hot') (edit: A cycle of warming and leaving to room temp is best. NOT a constant Hot temp.)
4. Shake the bottle and place in the heat bath.
5. Shake/mix occasionally and re-heat (not to boiling) when the pan gets cool if necessary.
6. Leave to soak for at least one hour.
No 4, where it says, shake the bottles and place in the heat bath. Can I give it a proper shake at this point or do I need to do this gently?
No 6, where it says, leave to soak for at least an hour. What's best, 1.5 hours, 2 hours?
Step 5 - basifying
1. Weigh out 50g of Sodium Hydroxide (Lye/Caustic Soda).
2. Put 200ml of cold de-ionised water into the measuring jug.
3. Slowly add the 50g of lye to the water and stir using a metal spoon until it is all dissolved.(Add the lye crystals INTO the water (NOT water onto lye) to avoid strong reaction and splashing)
4. Carefully add the caustic solution to the bottle.
5. Top up with 140ml de-ionised water to the bottle; the overall volume should be around 700ml altogether now.
6. Shake the mixture up; it should go very dark...almost black.
7. Put the bottle in a heat bath as before (Warm/cool cycling) and soak for at least 1-2 hours, re-heating the pan if necessary.
8. Shake the mixture occasionally to prevent settling.
No 6, where it says, shake the mixture up. Again, is this a proper shake or do I do it gently?
No 7, where it says, soak for at least 1-2 hours. Again, how long is best?
Step 6 - adding the non polar solvent
1. Measure out 50ml of naphtha (lighter fluid) and pour into the bottle.
2. Lightly shake and roll the mixture in a 'figure of 8' fashion (or like peddling a bike) for 20-30 seconds.(The idea is for the naphtha to 'touch' every part of the base mix)
3. Unscrew the cap momentarily to release any pressure build-up then tighten again.
4. Place back in a heat bath. (Heated pulls draw more product)
5. Leave for a while until the naphtha separates again. (edit: This has been reported to take an hour or so the first time (occasionally))
6. REPEAT THIS four times (shake/separate) to thoroughly mix them together. This should take around 45 mins.
No 6, where it says, repeat this step four times. Am I repeating the whole of step 6 four times? So for every 50ml of naphtha I'm going to shake for 20-30 seconds, unscrew cap momentarily n then tighten, place back in heat bath, and then leave to separate again?
Doing this four times, how long should the whole thing take?
Step 7 - pulling
Can all my pulls go into 1 Pyrex dish? We live in a motorhome n our freezer is tiny. It's just one small drawer so using 1 dish crucial really?
If this is possible, where do I put the dish whilst doing my other pulls. Room temp or put in the freezer n then take back out to add the other pulls?
Do I need to evap some of the naphtha before freezing? If so, how much do I evap? Would this be at room temp or with a fan?
Step 11 - re-ex
Can I use crockpot for water bath instead of the cooker to heat the jarred naphtha? If so, what heat setting n for how long?
The tek says, ' Next place the jar in a heat bath with a sieve in the pan, this stops it bubbling too hard. The lid should be just resting on the jar to prevent fumes from escaping. DO NOT screw the lid tight! The expanding fumes will create enough pressure to explode the jar.
Would you use sieve still is using a crockpot ( that's if you can )
Think that's all lol and thank you in advance if you got to the end of all this
Any help is much appreciated!!!
I apologies in advance if any of these questions have been asked before. I've used the search function n couldn't find anything concrete. However, I'm a total noob at this so might not be searching for the correct terms.
Apologies again if anything I ask here sounds stupid to you but I failed miserably at chemistry lol. I'm going into this blind n learning from scratch as I go, hence all the reading, re-reading n notes.
Anyway, here's where I'm at.
Can I use a slow cooker ( think this is a crockpot elsewhere ) for the heat baths? If so, which heat setting, warm, low or high? Though the tek says this is a warm tek, not hot so imagine not high.
What's the ideal temp as I'll be using a thermometer?
Step 3 - acidifying
Here's what it says ( copied n pasted from the tek )
1. Put 200ml De-ionised water in a pan, add 60ml vinegar and bring to just boiling.
2. Pour the acidic solution into the mixing bottle.
3. Put some tap water in a pan and bring to the boil, then turn OFF the heat. (The mix throughout this tek should be 'Warm' NOT 'Hot') (edit: A cycle of warming and leaving to room temp is best. NOT a constant Hot temp.)
4. Shake the bottle and place in the heat bath.
5. Shake/mix occasionally and re-heat (not to boiling) when the pan gets cool if necessary.
6. Leave to soak for at least one hour.
No 4, where it says, shake the bottles and place in the heat bath. Can I give it a proper shake at this point or do I need to do this gently?
No 6, where it says, leave to soak for at least an hour. What's best, 1.5 hours, 2 hours?
Step 5 - basifying
1. Weigh out 50g of Sodium Hydroxide (Lye/Caustic Soda).
2. Put 200ml of cold de-ionised water into the measuring jug.
3. Slowly add the 50g of lye to the water and stir using a metal spoon until it is all dissolved.(Add the lye crystals INTO the water (NOT water onto lye) to avoid strong reaction and splashing)
4. Carefully add the caustic solution to the bottle.
5. Top up with 140ml de-ionised water to the bottle; the overall volume should be around 700ml altogether now.
6. Shake the mixture up; it should go very dark...almost black.
7. Put the bottle in a heat bath as before (Warm/cool cycling) and soak for at least 1-2 hours, re-heating the pan if necessary.
8. Shake the mixture occasionally to prevent settling.
No 6, where it says, shake the mixture up. Again, is this a proper shake or do I do it gently?
No 7, where it says, soak for at least 1-2 hours. Again, how long is best?
Step 6 - adding the non polar solvent
1. Measure out 50ml of naphtha (lighter fluid) and pour into the bottle.
2. Lightly shake and roll the mixture in a 'figure of 8' fashion (or like peddling a bike) for 20-30 seconds.(The idea is for the naphtha to 'touch' every part of the base mix)
3. Unscrew the cap momentarily to release any pressure build-up then tighten again.
4. Place back in a heat bath. (Heated pulls draw more product)
5. Leave for a while until the naphtha separates again. (edit: This has been reported to take an hour or so the first time (occasionally))
6. REPEAT THIS four times (shake/separate) to thoroughly mix them together. This should take around 45 mins.
No 6, where it says, repeat this step four times. Am I repeating the whole of step 6 four times? So for every 50ml of naphtha I'm going to shake for 20-30 seconds, unscrew cap momentarily n then tighten, place back in heat bath, and then leave to separate again?
Doing this four times, how long should the whole thing take?
Step 7 - pulling
Can all my pulls go into 1 Pyrex dish? We live in a motorhome n our freezer is tiny. It's just one small drawer so using 1 dish crucial really?
If this is possible, where do I put the dish whilst doing my other pulls. Room temp or put in the freezer n then take back out to add the other pulls?
Do I need to evap some of the naphtha before freezing? If so, how much do I evap? Would this be at room temp or with a fan?
Step 11 - re-ex
Can I use crockpot for water bath instead of the cooker to heat the jarred naphtha? If so, what heat setting n for how long?
The tek says, ' Next place the jar in a heat bath with a sieve in the pan, this stops it bubbling too hard. The lid should be just resting on the jar to prevent fumes from escaping. DO NOT screw the lid tight! The expanding fumes will create enough pressure to explode the jar.
Would you use sieve still is using a crockpot ( that's if you can )
Think that's all lol and thank you in advance if you got to the end of all this
