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[M0K0]

Hey folks, after my last hyperslap witch is about 4 month ago, i am playing with the idea of using dmt on a daily basis because i wanna learn to great these objects with my voice.
Of course im aware of the regular dangers but what would you say from your personal experiences?
Is it possible to controlle hyperspace a little better, if i do it how can i reduce the negative side effects witch may occur. Is this just e dump idea?
Im not talking about breaking the limits, im talking about singing around right behind the portal.

 

[ControlledChaos]

I haven't smoked DMT before but I've done Ayahausca on a pretty frequent basis for a month or so, sometimes multiple times in a week. In my experience doing it on a regular basis will make both the experience itself and the after-effects stronger and the longer you do that the stronger it all gets. DMT has no tolerance and for Ayahausca in particular it's reverse tolerant so it's very possible. However, did my frequent use help me get a grapple on hyperspace and greater understanding of it all? Perhaps... But what I learned is that if you're gonna go deep, you're probably gonna face your fears at some point during that trip (though smoked DMT may be different due to its short duration). What I realized is that the more fearful elements of a trip can be reduced, but you'll probably still run into it. But there's also techniques to turning the trip around. I can't say I've achieved anything close to mastery but there's definitely a certain art to understanding and guiding these experiences.

 

[Voidmatrix]

This thread may be helpful for you in making the right decision for yourself.

It is a bit easier to get away with high frequency use if one is not journeying very far. The further you go, the greater the toll and the more time it can potentially take to integrate the experiences as a whole.

And regardless of distance and depth traveled, our reverence, respect, discipline and intent should never ever falter. The experience pretty much requires it; do not take it lightly.

One love

 

[M0K0]

thank you very much, i know pretty much what you mean by this.
Every time i start loosing respect it will teach me again how strong it will punish me for this little playfullness and i wont touch it for month. But then, it calls me again and again, thanks for the link.

 

[Voidmatrix]

thank you very much, i know pretty much what you mean by this.
Every time i start loosing respect it will teach me again how strong it will punish me for this little playfullness and i wont touch it for month. But then, it calls me again and again, thanks for the link.

Our relative positions relative to this topic are opposites. I'm trying to loosen up and have more fun with it. I tend to be too pensive which increases stress. That said, it's about balance; avoiding too much or too little of any facet.

It's been paying off, even with the kindest rudeness I've ever experienced when the journey made a point to me earlier in the week.

Best of luck. And always remember, you have support here.



One love

 

[bismillah]

I guess with DMT you could, since it's in and out so fast. But when I had a short shroom binge, I really felt like I did not want to be high all day by the last trip. It's too easy to disconnect from everything, which I think is not the point.

 

[M0K0]

Yea i feel this.
When im on festivals i start "abusing" LSD, sometimes this ends in being loaded for 3-4 dayies straight and then i start to question good and evil.
It also looses the magic if you do it too often and with rising resistance.
But with DMT it is different for me, if i d a breakthrough, i always have the feeling that it was to short and that, if can get another climbs on hyperspace, i will understand a bit more.
This is not the case for me and doing a couble of good hits in a row makes me bee too playful with it.
This endet last time with an experience that took me month to integrate and left me struggling with fear.
Im thinking about integrating one hit per day into my meditation what do you think about that.
(of course just temporary like until one of my extractions is gone)

 

[Voidmatrix]

Yea i feel this.
When im on festivals i start "abusing" LSD, sometimes this ends in being loaded for 3-4 dayies straight and then i start to question good and evil.
It also looses the magic if you do it too often and with rising resistance.
But with DMT it is different for me, if i d a breakthrough, i always have the feeling that it was to short and that, if can get another climbs on hyperspace, i will understand a bit more.
This is not the case for me and doing a couble of good hits in a row makes me bee too playful with it.
This endet last time with an experience that took me month to integrate and left me struggling with fear.
Im thinking about integrating one hit per day into my meditation what do you think about that.
(of course just temporary like until one of my extractions is gone)

Why everyday? Why not, say, every other day, or every three days, or once a week?

For me presently, in my personal practice, as an exercise in allowing myself more in my life in general, I am taking at least one hit when the thought comes up and I'd like to journey and all necessary considerations have been made. Granted, as previously specified, you and I are at opposite ends with our present experience with the topic in question.

One love

 

[M0K0]

You are right, maybe im putting a little to much pressure on the subject.
Until now i only did it when the spice was calling me (maybe once a month when i was hitting it hard).
I think i was interested in the every day use because i thought it would me help me to practise to control myself more in hyperspace.
If you do it just once a monthe you are overwhelmed by the experience but if you, lets say "get used" to it,
you may be able to keep a calm head and have more focus on what is going on.
But of course an everyday use may be really madness and a couple of times a week also quite hard to handle.
In the beginning of the post i actually was interested if it is hypothetically doable and what kind of side effects i should expect from it. I think i got what i was searching for... some decency.
Thank you guys.
I think to get more control i should mix myself some change and not hit the freebase like a monkey.

love is out

 

[Voidmatrix]

You are right, maybe im putting a little to much pressure on the subject.
Until now i only did it when the spice was calling me (maybe once a month when i was hitting it hard).
I think i was interested in the every day use because i thought it would me help me to practise to control myself more in hyperspace.
If you do it just once a monthe you are overwhelmed by the experience but if you, lets say "get used" to it,
you may be able to keep a calm head and have more focus on what is going on.
But of course an everyday use may be really madness and a couple of times a week also quite hard to handle.
In the beginning of the post i actually was interested if it is hypothetically doable and what kind of side effects i should expect from it. I think i got what i was searching for... some decency.
Thank you guys.
I think to get more control i should mix myself some change and not hit the freebase like a monkey.

love is out

So, you're not wrong. As it is with most things, the more you do it the better you get. But there are some monkey wrenches when doing this with DMT. The fear and horror may never go away. Instead, you learn to be with your own fear and anxiety as an observer and no longer let it control your position and movement through the space. This can be practiced outside the space with other feelings and thoughts through actions like meditation, wherein you get used to non-engagement with some of your own thoughts and feelings. So I'd say work on the traits you need for the space inside the experience and outside of it in your everyday life.

One love

 

[Psilosopher?]

Several years ago, i was having 20 breakthrough trips a week, for months on end. I'd take a few months off to integrate, and then jump back on the bandwagon with the same intensity and frequency. Rinse and repeat.

I did this because i had 3 things in abundance; spice, curiosity and the approval of the entities.

The problems started to arise with the latter. IME, constantly going up to hyperspace without acting on the teachings of the entities will annoy them over time. They may see you as a parasite or a leech. The entities seem to thrive on personal growth, they LOVE when you are looking after yourself and constantly seeking to improve.

Set and setting are important, but i view intention as being more important. WHY do you want to trip in the first place, let alone daily use? Not having a sound intention usually results in lacklustre or nonsensical trips. Or worse, hyperslaps.



Attaining control in hyperspace is most certainly possible. In my case, I was trained by an entity on how to control matter and energy in hyperspace. This was taught to me because i had the long-term intention of journeying to the hellscapes within hyperspace, so needed to be trained on how to handle malicious and malevolent entities.

This training was a permanent effect, i have energy/matter control for the vast majority of trips since that lesson.

However, the level of control fluctuates per trip.

The trips that have the most value to me are the ones where i DO NOT have control, and must surrender to the experience. That is where growth occurs, when you are forced out of your comfort zone.

 

[M0K0]

Several years ago, i was having 20 breakthrough trips a week, for months on end. I'd take a few months off to integrate, and then jump back on the bandwagon with the same intensity and frequency. Rinse and repeat.

I did this because i had 3 things in abundance; spice, curiosity and the approval of the entities.

The problems started to arise with the latter. IME, constantly going up to hyperspace without acting on the teachings of the entities will annoy them over time. They may see you as a parasite or a leech. The entities seem to thrive on personal growth, they LOVE when you are looking after yourself and constantly seeking to improve.

Set and setting are important, but i view intention as being more important. WHY do you want to trip in the first place, let alone daily use? Not having a sound intention usually results in lacklustre or nonsensical trips. Or worse, hyperslaps.



Attaining control in hyperspace is most certainly possible. In my case, I was trained by an entity on how to control matter and energy in hyperspace. This was taught to me because i had the long-term intention of journeying to the hellscapes within hyperspace, so needed to be trained on how to handle malicious and malevolent entities.

This training was a permanent effect, i have energy/matter control for the vast majority of trips since that lesson.

However, the level of control fluctuates per trip.

The trips that have the most value to me are the ones where i DO NOT have control, and must surrender to the experience. That is where growth occurs, when you are forced out of your comfort zone.

this was such a nice read man, thank you so much i will take that knowldge into account...
this experience is so different from everything i know...
i dont know if i would call myself still sane if there where not so many people whove seen the same

my intention of doint it more often would be 1: attaining more control in hyperspace
2: for knowledge, im pretty sure our physical world is not the only thing there is and i wanna explore hyperspace to get a clue about what it could be, what are the entities, what can they tell me? is it possible to connect both worlds? etc. love is out

 

[OliverJ]

Several years ago, i was having 20 breakthrough trips a week, for months on end. I'd take a few months off to integrate, and then jump back on the bandwagon with the same intensity and frequency. Rinse and repeat.

I did this because i had 3 things in abundance; spice, curiosity and the approval of the entities.

The problems started to arise with the latter. IME, constantly going up to hyperspace without acting on the teachings of the entities will annoy them over time. They may see you as a parasite or a leech. The entities seem to thrive on personal growth, they LOVE when you are looking after yourself and constantly seeking to improve.

Set and setting are important, but i view intention as being more important. WHY do you want to trip in the first place, let alone daily use? Not having a sound intention usually results in lacklustre or nonsensical trips. Or worse, hyperslaps.



Attaining control in hyperspace is most certainly possible. In my case, I was trained by an entity on how to control matter and energy in hyperspace. This was taught to me because i had the long-term intention of journeying to the hellscapes within hyperspace, so needed to be trained on how to handle malicious and malevolent entities.

This training was a permanent effect, i have energy/matter control for the vast majority of trips since that lesson.

However, the level of control fluctuates per trip.

The trips that have the most value to me are the ones where i DO NOT have control, and must surrender to the experience. That is where growth occurs, when you are forced out of your comfort zone.

I see a lot of truth in this comment. IME, "abusing" ayahuasca for a number of months resulted eventually in a very, very hard hyperslap completely out of nowhere. I did not heed the advice that was often given by the spirit(s) in my sessions.

 

[Voidmatrix]

Another suggestion I'd like to make is to approach this like a relationship. Allow there to be intentional reciprocity between you and the Spice. This can help with higher frequency as well as solidify an approach that encourages more growth and care on the part of the molecule. Get to know it through coming to know yourself. I guess, instead of only having the intention of practicing the experience, couple that with the intention of wanting to intimately know the molecule. For me, this has resulted in a truly meaningful relationship that defies words. Don't just try to gain from the molecule, but give to it as well.

One love

 

[M0K0]

so much wisdom from people who would be seen as hopelessly insane by some points of view
this is a great advice, actually i always have the urge to accomplish something in my everyday life before i do another travel, because it feels like these two world hang together in some sense and we have to give before we can take again.