Delosperma cooperi

[Zuckerwasser]

Hey,

where i am right now, Rome, i noticed a lot of delosperma cooperi. There is a beach at Ostia, there it grows, and it is really a lot, they are some years old, partly woody, big, some have completly red leaves (maybe a sign for tryptamines...), also some sompletly dark green leaves.
So i got me some, a big cuttling for my balkone, and some to dry (5kg fresh material). I Do it in the kitchen, at a dry place with a lil bit shadows. I dry all parts of the plant: leaves, stems, roots, the woody stems also.
I dont want to extract something at the moment(i want to use my time for rome, and i want to wait after my last psychedlic event, it was very big), i want to wait till i am back in my homeland next year. So i thought: i dry them, then i put them in a air-tight back in the freezer till i go back home. Is that ok, or will it damage the good things in it?
I will make pictures from the beach, the material and so, when i have time.

Ciao

 

[DiMiTriX]

i'm in north italy and i've some delosperma too in the garden..i've asked here too if it's worth the extraction without many good answers so i don't know what to do...i might get some alkaloids but than what do do with them? is there something poisonous in them? i dunno

buona fortuna per la ricerca..ciao! :thumb_up:

 

[Zuckerwasser]

Sad, that nobody is supporting this, i dont know, if the kind of storaging is ok for the wanted alkaloids. But i think, i will bring it to the end, extract, when im back home smoke some.
A new sample with a lot of red i got some days ago is also fermenting at the moment. Ive read in Trouts Some other succulents, that channa is beeing fermented. And because the original channa (maybe something else than what there is today) has also been fermented and snuffed, maybe it was delosperma cooperi, that was used back then.
Ive seen some delosperma cooperi in my homeland, a northern country, and there they were never as red, as i see them here. At another point (sadly i didnt write down pages), Trout talks about the fermentation someone can see, when the plant is drying without beeing cut down. Maybe that is the red, but maybe its a sign of tryptamines: because it gets so red, when the plant is stressed, and i remember phalaris arundinacea beeing red at the roots and sometimes the stems and so at Mimosa hostilis rootbark (only seen on fotos).
Here i got some fotos i did in the last time:

Delosperma cooperi at the beach in Ostia:

Red parts of the plants:

Drying in very small pieces:

I will report back.

Have a good time, Zuckerwasser

 

[endlessness]

Thanks for trying this out. I dont think people here tried this plant out yet, hence why not many answers. In any case it`s always good that someone goes for it and lets us know

I most definitely recommend, before the propper analysis kits are out, to get some reagents like marquis, and ehrlich, and test whatever comes out of your extraction, to try to at least have an idea on the content.

 

[Zuckerwasser]

I wont get time to do this for the next 9 months, beeing in Rome as a student. I want to wait till i get back and do it there.

The most important question for me is now: Is drying and freezing doing good?

 

[jamie]

One guy here a few years ago did comment on an extraction he did, and I think he said it had effects similar to DiPT DPT..or something like that..

 

[endlessness]

Drying and freezing sounds reasonable.

DMT itself is very stable, though there is a chance that some plant enzymes are still active after harvest and till it dries completely, and that they change alkaloid content (there is indication this happens with phalaris). But at this moment it`s hard to say, it might be that the drying process will actually help increase alkaloid content, or favor DMT vs another unwanted alkaloid (or the inverse). At this point we can´t know, but anyways I think given that we cant know at this point and considering your situation, Id say dry and freeze is the best

 

[changalvia]

this post gave me hope for a future 5-meo extraction, its something i wanna attempt when im not in-between days, bit difficult atm

Delosperma Extraction - Looking good. - Advanced/Enhanced chemistry - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

 

[DiMiTriX]

delosperma cooperi is very common in italy but it's not that plant you posted.....that one is very common in south italy beaches as you said,but i don't know what is that. check the other thread on delosperma..i've posted few pics of swim stuff

 

[Zuckerwasser]

@DiMiTriX: Are you shure about that? I stole a plant in a botanical garden in Germany, its name was delosperma cooperi. It was a very young plant, only one year or so, the leaves looked very much the same as the ones i see here.
At the pictures you posted the plants had longer leaves. They looked older than the german one i stole and more vital. The plants i found in south italy are from a beach. So they have more contact to the sand and earth, and they are older. So maybe the leaves are shorter, and the stems more woody.
Do you know, what the plant in south italy is called?

 

[Zuckerwasser]

The name of the plant i found is Carpobrotus edulis, healthy as an antioxidant, but no tryptamines, also no mesembrines.

 

[jamie]

"I stole a plant in a botanical garden in Germany"

why?

 

[Zuckerwasser]

Its kind of rude, i know. There were like 10 Plants, and i took a small little one. Shame on me