Dennis McKenna says that you don't need to go to the Jungle

[ninjashoes]

Dennis says that it is unnecessary to go to the jungle for a proper ritual with a shaman and all that. I couldn't agree with him more, I always hated when people would say that it is dangerous etc etc

This is the first interview he has done in a long time, very cool

 

[3rdI]

i see it as drug snobbery, its ridiculous. The Nexus has been saying this since before i turned up a few years ago.

i would be interested to hear from more people who have alot of experience with strong home brews and have then drunk in the jungle, i wonder how different the experience is once you have found your feet at home.

I definitely agree that you dont have to go to the jungle to have a healing experience but it may be worth going to the jungle for the specific type of experience that manifests itself in that setting.

 

[entheogenic-gnosis]

I came down with a horrible strain of Flu, I was sent home from the ER two different times, t hey say with a virus all you can do is tough it out. I have a close friend who is a well trained ayahuasquero, on the 12th day of my sickness he cured me.
Believe it or not there is REAL shamanism in the USA. Ive been feeling perfect ever since, which blew my mind, ive used ayahuasca for inner space exploration, but this was the first time ive ever seen a legitimate shaman heal with yage I was skeptical, honestly I thought it would kill me of I drank yage with a virus, but I cant argue with results
(I'm not saying if your sick to take ayahuasca, please don't do this, this is anecdotal evidence of healing with yage in the USA and is for informational purposes only)


-EG

 

[Infectedstyle]

Gonna watch article later. Hope Mckenna has some tips but.. Mescaline was pretty harsh for me! Given my condition. A Shaman would have been nice. Emotional support is nihil the only emotional support I could fine was people trying to send me to the mental hospital. Don't get me wrong. I know how to handle the drug now but... AT the very least someone who knows what their doing is like a gift from heaven if you ask me

 

[AcaciaConfusedYah]

A few months ago, a friend of mine was involved in a bad motorcycle accident. His shoulder was broken in many places and it looked like surgery was inevitable. When he told me about the surgery, I asked him to come visit me for a weekend. During his stay, we decided to see if a session of cactus healing could aid in his recovery; so that he did not have to undergo the surgery. Three days after returning home, he went to the doctor to get another MRI and x-ray. The doctors were amazed. In the short amount of time, his shoulder had healed tremendously – so much improvement that he was no longer going to need surgery. My friend called me with the good news. He was confused. He was not sure what I did to him, but he was thankful.

In honesty, I don’t think I did anything. Before coming to visit, he was pretty depressed. Sometimes, our minds can be our greatest asset, or our worst enemy. With the help of a cactus and a pal, he was able to lift his mood and heal himself. That’s what these medicines are all about – finding ourselves, healing ourselves and others, and appreciating all that is. A rattle and drum aren't always necessary.

 

[blue_velvet]

I recall Terence saying something on the subject too. After a ceremony, one of the ayahuasqueros he encountered gave him a water bottle full of aya and told him to take it in his own land to give his experience a relevant context.

 

[ninjashoes]

I recall Terence saying something on the subject too. After a ceremony, one of the ayahuasqueros he encountered gave him a water bottle full of aya and told him to take it in his own land to give his experience a relevant context.

Wow, do you remember which lecture that might have been from? I am trying to collect all of his work.

 

[universecannon]

Might have been the same bottle that he recalled taking out of the freezer over a year later... then how they tried to remember whether or not the shaman had said to shake the bottle before drinking it.

 

[entheogenic-gnosis]

I recall Terence saying something on the subject too. After a ceremony, one of the ayahuasqueros he encountered gave him a water bottle full of aya and told him to take it in his own land to give his experience a relevant context.

Wow, do you remember which lecture that might have been from? I am trying to collect all of his work.

Psychedelia: Raw Archives of Terence McKenna Talks : Bruce Damer : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

This site lets you download all of mckennas lectures for free!

-EG

 

[blue_velvet]

Wow, do you remember which lecture that might have been from? I am trying to collect all of his work.

I read it in The Archaic Revival, but I think those essays are all from lectures. Unfortunately, I just lent my copy out a couple days ago.

 

[Randomness]

I think it is ridiculous when people think they have to go half way across the globe to hook up with some guy off the Internet and buy a drugs holiday off him. Call it what you will but it smells of snobbery to me. Be surprised if you get any real shaman on trip advisor.

What a waste of resources.

If you want to learn. lern yourself and become your own teacher, we live in a world where mankinds combined knowledge is availible at your fingertips. Leave the jungle to be the jungle and the jaguar to hunt in peace and use the money you would have spent on tickets do do something usefull.

 

[Cognitive Heart]

I can see it both ways.. whether in the jungle, or in a room, both can be beneficial experiences. Responsibility is of great importance.

 

[BundleflowerPower]

Many people cant afford a trip to the jungle anyway.

 

[ymer]

I've been to several Peyote ceremonies with a very nice Marakame and they have been good, however my biggest and deepest experience was with my own brew of caapi and mimosa which I drank alone with a friend in the woods.

So yea you don't really need much of a guide, the medicine and the teacher are the plants themselves.

 

[lobo]

You only need a shaman when you need her/his power

 

[BundleflowerPower]

I've been to several Peyote ceremonies with a very nice Marakame and they have been good, however my biggest and deepest experience was with my own brew of caapi and mimosa which I drank alone with a friend in the woods.

So yea you don't really need much of a guide, the medicine and the teacher are the plants themselves.

Agreed