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Did Jesus smoke DMT?

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He most potentially would have had experince with psilocybin mushrooms, as far as I have been able to investigate. You can sometimes see mushrooms depicted in some Catholic religious art as well, most often amanita, or psilocybin looking. I think there is a book on this topic ..
 
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Its sounds closer to the invention of jenkem now bro.

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Ps, educate me, because i searched rhe meaning of the prefix Al. In Arabic it means "the" and English it means "all" and I'm not making the connections i think you are.
 
Voidmatrix said:
Its sounds closer to the invention of jenkem now bro.

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Ps, educate me, because i searched rhe meaning of the prefix Al. In Arabic it means "the" and English it means "all" and I'm not making the connections i think you are.
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Well that's the basic gist - not the jenkem bit, but that there was a strong tradition in Arabic regions of what we would now call chemical inventions, some ideas of which may have come along the spice routes (with the help of the aforementioned camels) from India and China.

I wouldn't seriously suggest that people contemporaneous with the Roman occupation of Judea had necessarily discovered alcohol distillation, but it's interesting to contemplate what a few bright sparks may have discovered - and maybe kept to themselves.
 
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Was that a region with many psilocybin mushrooms at the time?

Pretty sure he was around cannabis though.

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Jesus turned water into a "wine" that made the festivities amazing, and that sounds like a good old hippie making classic mushroom tea to me...
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Two things, maybe two-and-a-half: various types of animal dung, along with dung-fertilised grasslands, would hold a certain amount of potential, as well as the observation that pine cones in Algeria were a habitat for psilocybin-containing Hypholoma cyanescens.

We also shouldn't forget the potential that harmel has for producing a kind of 'drunkenness' - as well as a red dye…
 
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I will say that i think the ancient Egyptians may at one point have been doing their own pharmahuasca. I say this because of their reverence for acacia, their use of rue, and the recently tested chalices where traces of rue and blue lotus were found.

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Wasn't there a recently-discovered papyrus where the project manager is mostly complaining about how the workers were no good and sat around drinking lotus all day? :ROFLMAO:
 
Yeshua (Jesus) and his mother Mary lived for around 6 months in Old Cairo in a room under a church. Known as either the Abu Serga church or Saints Sergius and Bacchus Church, it is a short walk to the Giza plateau and the Pyramids. There appears to be some historical references to Yeshua (Jesus) being trained at the mystery school in the Great Pyramid. If this is true, then he would have had access to an Ayahuasca analogue brew or extraction made from Acacia and Syrian Rue. According the Bible, Yeshua (Jesus) did know how to make the Holy Anointing Oil which many believe was created with Cannabis and liquid myrrh infused with heat into Olive oil. This oil tincture would have made the person getting anointed with it very high on concentrated Cannabis transdermally. So, yes, I believe Void is correct when he wrote, "Probably not smoalked, but perhaps a blend of rue and acacia... maybe. 🤣"

I have heard that the spyragic tincture of DMT and Harmalas from Acacia and Syrian Rue referred to as the Blood of Osiris and or Blood of Christ is a very concentrated and very pure form of DMT/Harmala combo. The ancient Egyptians knew how to make this and I believe also the Knights Templars, perhaps also other groups as well. I have yet to find an actual tek or recipe for this, but it gets talked about sometimes.
 
Great discussion, thanks for this.

Back to the burning camel dung - pots heated over such a fire would have crystals of ammonium chloride collect upon them. Combine this sal ammoniac with the alkaline ashes, or even soda (another Arabic word!) from the desert, and you get ammonia gas or (impure) solution. I don't think Jesus was necessarily initated into the VDS protocol - but then again, who knows? :D
 
An interesting aspect to this is the high priests would burn incense at the alters until the rooms were filled and the wood there is the acacia which hold high religious value.
It could be a situation similar to the seers/oracles in ancient Greece.
 
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An interesting aspect to this is the high priests would burn incense at the alters until the rooms were filled and the wood there is the acacia which hold high religious value.
It could be a situation similar to the seers/oracles in ancient Greece.
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I know for a fact that burning various plant resins in an enclosed space can get one quite blitzed 🤭 It wouldn't be surprising if one were to find that, e.g., "tabernacle" were to translate roughly as "hotbox", other than that the altered states of conciousness will have been regarded with the utmost reverence, unlike the flippancy which the modern colloquial term suggests.

"Tabernacle" is derived from the Roman Latin "tabernaculum", generally translated as "tent" or "hut", but it seems like a complex word for those two simple things, such that it deserves to have its own etymology more closely examined.

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The "-aculum" part is merely a diminutive suffix, leaving us with "taberna", meaning, again, "booth" or "hut". The lexical link with "taverna" is surely only too clear, but whether that connects on the level of 'intoxicants' and similar consciousness-altering substances, I cannot say right now. Were tavernae ever dedicated to Bacchus, Demeter or similar? Best go down the Green Man and ask the bartender.

Definition 3 of "taberna" is basically a pub, inn* or bar:

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[*accommodation notwithstanding]
 
Frankincense and Myrrh both have medicinal and psychoactive qualities. I always thought it was odd that the 3 Magi or 'wise men' that greeted the baby Yeshua (Jesus) brought him Gold, Frankincense and Myrrh as gifts. Gold of course has been used as currency for thousands of years, so I always assumed that the Gold they gifted to Yeshua (Jesus) was money. But what if it was also a medicine like Frankincense and Myrrh? Monoatomic gold, sometimes referred to as 'Ormus' does have medicinal and psychoactive qualities. Monoatomic gold, boosts energy within the human body and can act as a booster of psychoactive substances like Harmalas or Cannabis, requiring less material than normal to achieve the same result. So perhaps all 3 gifts were medicinal and psychoactive, Monoatomic gold, Frankincense and Myrrh. Maybe the 3 substances all work together somehow synergistically.
 
I think Jesus was lit and enjoy the discourse about him purportedly spending time in Egypt/India/consuming psychedelics etc.. There’s so much we don’t know, yet to me it seems clear that he followed a path of spiritual practice to its fruition.

The notion of Jesus being some kind of pious and saintly figure seems inaccurate, in my view. Rather, I get the sense of him being a deeply awakened/compassionate mystic healer, which I presume would entail the experience of total
embodiment.
 
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