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Did we just get officially f#cked over?(In america)
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On Guarde'a1pha said:
It's called Ye Olde' Bait n' Switch
I mean this is already in effect albeit under the radar. Anything they REALLY don't wait they take down anyways this is just the logical conclusion of the past quarter century of our rights being chipped away at. I don't see anything changing though, they have the people to locked up in a game of republicans - democrats - republicans - democrats for anything to change.
I mean has a state every REALLY respected human rights on an individual level? If a state wants to knock out someone it will happen. Rights don't exist when they are granted by the same agency that throws you into prison ffs.
I mean has a state every REALLY respected human rights on an individual level? If a state wants to knock out someone it will happen. Rights don't exist when they are granted by the same agency that throws you into prison ffs.
They cut the cameras in Congress....
Iain1 said:
Here. The link in the post was messed up because the bracket was included. Although, you do raise a good point, probably suitable for an entirely different thread. I'd like to see this forum transferred to the darknet if worse comes to worst with SOPA, and net neutrality in general going to the dumps.
Sopa Is dying Go Daddy pulled their support as mass boycotts across the country cost them 70,000+ domains so far.
www.techi.com
Anon hacked a security firm Naughty anonymous
:
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GoDaddy lost 72,354 domains this week. It's not enough.
Despite a massive Twitter campaign and a blog post that claims "Go Daddy no longer supports SOPA legislation" the company and its CEO have dodged questions
www.techi.com
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ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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Saidin said:
Hi everyone,
Great commentary here. A lot to be learned.
I just want to chime in on Gadaffi - very important point you made there. We must stop thinking in binary fashion - i.e. was he "good" or "bad" ?
I was intrigued by his death, after I recently came across this video:
which piqued my interest greatly. Yesterday, I googled him for more info and was surprised to find many and more of the claims in the video substantiated in wikipedia
Muammar Gaddafi - Wikipedia
I am somewhat of a self educated finance head (zerohedge!) and what struck me as TRUTH instantly was the significance of Libya being a debt-free country that produced SOUND MONEY not FIAT money (ohh how we HATE that!), one of the top oil producing nations, a vital supplier of oil to Europe (especially Italy), the largest FRESH water supply in Africa, and most damning of all - Gaddaffi's desire to create a gold backed dinar, an African Union, and to start trading oil in that new, gold-backed currency.
This is exactly what Saddam Hussein wanted to do before we took him out for WMDs (what a joke that was, eh?)
Good, bad, I don't know. As humans go, probably both and as politicians do, extreme ends of the spectrum at times. Was he eccentric, certainly. Did he accomplish great things for his country as a whole? Apparently so. I would love a $50,000 handout when I get married. Check out his amazonian guards:
Anyone interested in geopolitics and America's role (especially CIA involvement) in overthrowing many, many freely elected leaders check out the excellent book "Killing Hope" by William Blum.
What you will find is that this has happened, many, many times in the past... and I believe, the current events today are the plans outlined in PNAC (Project for a New American CenturY) turning, rolling forward... it's all planned IMHO. There are no mistakes. There are no "reactionary measures." WE (USA) are the belligerents, we impose sanctions, through NATO enforce no fly zones, and as always, fund the rebel group today turned terrorist group tomorrow of the day with weapons, munitions, and logistical support.
Several half billion dollar+ oil contracts are already spoken for in Libya by our oil companies.
One of the first things the Transitional National Council of Libya (the "ragtag rebel group..") did was create a Central Bank. If ever there was a red flag that something more is going on, that some shadowy arm is exerting its will...
Another excellent geopolitics site:
Home - Global Research
Global Research is a media group of writers, journalists and activists and based in Montreal, Canada, and a registered non profit organization.
www.globalresearch.ca
BTW
For those who are curious about the media "news" conglomerate :
#1 General Electric
$100.5 billion
1998 revenues
GE/NBC's ranks No. 1 on the Forbes 500. Prior to its merger with NBC and an alliance with Microsoft, GE specialized in electronics. The peacock owns many New York sports team. It also owns or has equity stakes in many popular websites, including Snap.com and iVillage. NBC includes programming, news and more than 13 TV and radio stations.
Owns 25-50% of the following:
A & E (with Disney and Hearst)
American Movie Classics (25%)
Biography Channel (with Disney and Hearst)
Bravo (50%)
Bravo International
CNBC
Court TV (with Time Warner)
Fox Sports Net
History Channel (with Disney and Hearst)
Independent Film Channel
MSG Network
MSNBC (50%)
National Geographic Worldwide
News Sport
Prime
Prism (with Rainbow, a subsidiary of Cablevision, and Liberty Media, a subsidiary of TCI)
Romance Classics
Sports Channel Cincinnati, Chicago, Florida, New England, Pacific, Ohio, Philadelphia
#2 Time Warner
$26.8 billion
1998 revenues
The largest media corporation in the world, Time Warner owns film and music production companies, theme parks, sports teams, magazines, websites and book publishers as well as Turner Broadcasting. TURNER BROAD-CASTING includes sports teams, programming, production, retail, book publishing and multimedia. WB Television Network.
Owns:
HBO (75%)
Cinemax
HBO Direct Broadcast
Court TV (33% with GE)
TBS Superstation
Turner Classic Movies
TNT
Cartoon Network
Comedy Central (37.5% with Viacom)
Sega Channel
OVATION (50%)
Women's Information Television (WIN) (partial)
TVKO (75%)
4 regional all-news channels
CNN
CNN/SI (with Sports Illustrated)
CNNfn (financial network)
CNNRadio
Headline News
Sportsouth
CNN International
CNN Airport Network
#3 The Walt Disney Co.
$23 billion
1998 revenues
With its 1995 merger with Capital Cities/ABC, Disney has become a fully-integrated media giant. In addition to its theme parks, the company profits from retail outlets, magazines, book publishers, websites, motion pictures, sports teams, TV, cable, radio, music and newspapers. ABC
includes ABC Radio, ABC Video and ABC Network News.
Disney Channel
Disney Television (58 hours/week syndicated programming)
Toon Disney
Touchstone Television
A&E (37.5% with Hearst and GE)
Lifetime Network (50%)
ESPN (80% with Hearst)
ESPN2 (80% with Hearst)
ESPN Classic (80% with Hearst)
ESPN West (80% with Hearst)
ESPNews (80% with Hearst)
Buena Vista Television
Biography Channel (with GE and Hearst)
History Channel (37.5% with Hearst and GE)
Classic Sports Network
E! (35%)
#4 Viacom
$18.9 billion
1998 revenues
Viacom's purchase of Paramount, CBS and Blockbuster Video enables them to use cable, television, movies, comic books, theme parks, music publishing and book publishing to cross-market their products. Broadcasting alone brings in over $6 billion in revenues. CBS
includes stations, CBS Radio, CBS Telenoticias and CBS Network News. UPN includes programming and TV stations (50%).
Nickelodeon
MTV
M2: Music Television
VH1
Showtime
Nick at Nite's TVLand
Paramount Networks Comedy Central (50% with Time Warner)
TNN: The Nashville Network
Movie Channel
FLIX
All News Channel (50%)
Sundance Channel (45%)
Midwest Sports Channel
CBS Telenoticias (30%)
Home Team Sports (66% with News Corporation)
News Corporation
$13 billion
1998 revenues
CEO Rupert Murdoch's style has inspired respect and fear, and it has also made his multinational ventures in publishing, television and satellite services very successful. The company owns 20th Century Fox, the New York Post, the London Times, TV Guide, many stadiums, the LA Dodgers and five New York sports teams. FOX includes programming and stations.
Fox Family Channel (50%)
Fox News Channel
fx (50% with TCI's Liberty Media)
fxM (50% with TCI's Liberty Media)
Fox Sports Net (25% with TCI, GE and Cablevision)
The National Geographic Channel (50%)
FIT TV Partnership
Regional networks, including TV Guide Channel and Fox Sports New York
For those who are curious about the media "news" conglomerate :
#1 General Electric
$100.5 billion
1998 revenues
GE/NBC's ranks No. 1 on the Forbes 500. Prior to its merger with NBC and an alliance with Microsoft, GE specialized in electronics. The peacock owns many New York sports team. It also owns or has equity stakes in many popular websites, including Snap.com and iVillage. NBC includes programming, news and more than 13 TV and radio stations.
Owns 25-50% of the following:
A & E (with Disney and Hearst)
American Movie Classics (25%)
Biography Channel (with Disney and Hearst)
Bravo (50%)
Bravo International
CNBC
Court TV (with Time Warner)
Fox Sports Net
History Channel (with Disney and Hearst)
Independent Film Channel
MSG Network
MSNBC (50%)
National Geographic Worldwide
News Sport
Prime
Prism (with Rainbow, a subsidiary of Cablevision, and Liberty Media, a subsidiary of TCI)
Romance Classics
Sports Channel Cincinnati, Chicago, Florida, New England, Pacific, Ohio, Philadelphia
#2 Time Warner
$26.8 billion
1998 revenues
The largest media corporation in the world, Time Warner owns film and music production companies, theme parks, sports teams, magazines, websites and book publishers as well as Turner Broadcasting. TURNER BROAD-CASTING includes sports teams, programming, production, retail, book publishing and multimedia. WB Television Network.
Owns:
HBO (75%)
Cinemax
HBO Direct Broadcast
Court TV (33% with GE)
TBS Superstation
Turner Classic Movies
TNT
Cartoon Network
Comedy Central (37.5% with Viacom)
Sega Channel
OVATION (50%)
Women's Information Television (WIN) (partial)
TVKO (75%)
4 regional all-news channels
CNN
CNN/SI (with Sports Illustrated)
CNNfn (financial network)
CNNRadio
Headline News
Sportsouth
CNN International
CNN Airport Network
#3 The Walt Disney Co.
$23 billion
1998 revenues
With its 1995 merger with Capital Cities/ABC, Disney has become a fully-integrated media giant. In addition to its theme parks, the company profits from retail outlets, magazines, book publishers, websites, motion pictures, sports teams, TV, cable, radio, music and newspapers. ABC
includes ABC Radio, ABC Video and ABC Network News.
Disney Channel
Disney Television (58 hours/week syndicated programming)
Toon Disney
Touchstone Television
A&E (37.5% with Hearst and GE)
Lifetime Network (50%)
ESPN (80% with Hearst)
ESPN2 (80% with Hearst)
ESPN Classic (80% with Hearst)
ESPN West (80% with Hearst)
ESPNews (80% with Hearst)
Buena Vista Television
Biography Channel (with GE and Hearst)
History Channel (37.5% with Hearst and GE)
Classic Sports Network
E! (35%)
#4 Viacom
$18.9 billion
1998 revenues
Viacom's purchase of Paramount, CBS and Blockbuster Video enables them to use cable, television, movies, comic books, theme parks, music publishing and book publishing to cross-market their products. Broadcasting alone brings in over $6 billion in revenues. CBS
includes stations, CBS Radio, CBS Telenoticias and CBS Network News. UPN includes programming and TV stations (50%).
Nickelodeon
MTV
M2: Music Television
VH1
Showtime
Nick at Nite's TVLand
Paramount Networks Comedy Central (50% with Time Warner)
TNN: The Nashville Network
Movie Channel
FLIX
All News Channel (50%)
Sundance Channel (45%)
Midwest Sports Channel
CBS Telenoticias (30%)
Home Team Sports (66% with News Corporation)
News Corporation
$13 billion
1998 revenues
CEO Rupert Murdoch's style has inspired respect and fear, and it has also made his multinational ventures in publishing, television and satellite services very successful. The company owns 20th Century Fox, the New York Post, the London Times, TV Guide, many stadiums, the LA Dodgers and five New York sports teams. FOX includes programming and stations.
Fox Family Channel (50%)
Fox News Channel
fx (50% with TCI's Liberty Media)
fxM (50% with TCI's Liberty Media)
Fox Sports Net (25% with TCI, GE and Cablevision)
The National Geographic Channel (50%)
FIT TV Partnership
Regional networks, including TV Guide Channel and Fox Sports New York
Adolf hitler also did some good things for germany.toxic8 said:Saidin said:
Hi everyone,
Great commentary here. A lot to be learned.
I just want to chime in on Gadaffi - very important point you made there. We must stop thinking in binary fashion - i.e. was he "good" or "bad" ?
I was intrigued by his death, after I recently came across this video:
which piqued my interest greatly. Yesterday, I googled him for more info and was surprised to find many and more of the claims in the video substantiated in wikipedia
Muammar Gaddafi - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
I am somewhat of a self educated finance head (zerohedge!) and what struck me as TRUTH instantly was the significance of Libya being a debt-free country that produced SOUND MONEY not FIAT money (ohh how we HATE that!), one of the top oil producing nations, a vital supplier of oil to Europe (especially Italy), the largest FRESH water supply in Africa, and most damning of all - Gaddaffi's desire to create a gold backed dinar, an African Union, and to start trading oil in that new, gold-backed currency.
This is exactly what Saddam Hussein wanted to do before we took him out for WMDs (what a joke that was, eh?)
Good, bad, I don't know. As humans go, probably both and as politicians do, extreme ends of the spectrum at times. Was he eccentric, certainly. Did he accomplish great things for his country as a whole? Apparently so. I would love a $50,000 handout when I get married. Check out his amazonian guards:
Anyone interested in geopolitics and America's role (especially CIA involvement) in overthrowing many, many freely elected leaders check out the excellent book "Killing Hope" by William Blum.
What you will find is that this has happened, many, many times in the past... and I believe, the current events today are the plans outlined in PNAC (Project for a New American CenturY) turning, rolling forward... it's all planned IMHO. There are no mistakes. There are no "reactionary measures." WE (USA) are the belligerents, we impose sanctions, through NATO enforce no fly zones, and as always, fund the rebel group today turned terrorist group tomorrow of the day with weapons, munitions, and logistical support.
Several half billion dollar+ oil contracts are already spoken for in Libya by our oil companies.
One of the first things the Transitional National Council of Libya (the "ragtag rebel group..") did was create a Central Bank. If ever there was a red flag that something more is going on, that some shadowy arm is exerting its will...
Another excellent geopolitics site:
Home - Global Research
Global Research is a media group of writers, journalists and activists and based in Montreal, Canada, and a registered non profit organization.
No matter how many good things gaddafi has done for africa and libya, he´s still a mass-murderer.
And that´s not just western propaganda: Beside the fact that he repeatedly admitted having supported terrorism and other mass-murderers like idi amin, he has said himself that he was planning to 'exterminate all the rat´s' in benghazi and elsewhere...city by city, street by street, house by house, room by room.
Don´t make the mistake of aplying double standards: if a western leader would say such things, i don´t think you´d see a comment like 'he´s a good guy'.
Western imperialism is bad...that doesn´t make any enemy of western imperialism good.
Gahdafi is a friggin fruitloop.
The people are taking on the elected one at a time now:
The people are taking on the elected one at a time now:
vardlokkur
Rising Star
The paranoia culture that has grown around all the unaltered knowledge that the internet has offered is amazing. I've had some insanely bad trips due to my own hyper-vigilance and constant intake of information that is not the most heart-warming stuff to read.
My mind always seems to tug equally in either direction. One side says, "Yes, we are screwed, but there's nothing you can do to change it, or anyway to tell when it will come." Another side counters it, "Yes, you are paranoid, some people need this illusion of everything being life or death in order to drive them towards some type of greater goal."
The world is in shambles of a state and it's hard to believe that we can continue "business as usual" for another decade or two, and it's also quite hard to believe that we can change quick enough to make a difference.
But if I had to choose from two choices of a 1984-esque world that is being hinted at more and more, or a new dark-age in the lines of Mad-Max; I'd choose the second as a lesser of two evils. Just thinking of what life would really be like in either scenario makes my fight/flight mechanism flutter. Perhaps my mind has just been warped beyond recognition, but all these "for your protection" agendas being pushed alongside all the other evidence of FEMA, Agenda-21, and the UN's dastardly intentions tend to be staring us in our faces though the average person seems to have their nose too far in the grinding block to notice.
My mind always seems to tug equally in either direction. One side says, "Yes, we are screwed, but there's nothing you can do to change it, or anyway to tell when it will come." Another side counters it, "Yes, you are paranoid, some people need this illusion of everything being life or death in order to drive them towards some type of greater goal."
The world is in shambles of a state and it's hard to believe that we can continue "business as usual" for another decade or two, and it's also quite hard to believe that we can change quick enough to make a difference.
But if I had to choose from two choices of a 1984-esque world that is being hinted at more and more, or a new dark-age in the lines of Mad-Max; I'd choose the second as a lesser of two evils. Just thinking of what life would really be like in either scenario makes my fight/flight mechanism flutter. Perhaps my mind has just been warped beyond recognition, but all these "for your protection" agendas being pushed alongside all the other evidence of FEMA, Agenda-21, and the UN's dastardly intentions tend to be staring us in our faces though the average person seems to have their nose too far in the grinding block to notice.
What a difference a day can make. Last night the community decided from one post that they should shoot down a sopa supporting congressman. It wasnt decided on till this morning and already it's making news all over.
www.ibtimes.com
When you have the momentum I guess things can go wild. That zerban guy really did play this perfect and his quick response kept it from loosing steam. I think things like this show us that the public does want to do something and they are just looking to latch onto something they think might work. They no longer have the OWS outlet o they are now going home and logging in.
Paul Ryan and SOPA: Reddit Boosts Opponent Rob Zerban for 2012 Race
Wisconsin Republican U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan, has become the target of Redditors over his support of the controversial Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), after his opponent Rob Zerban took anywhere from five to 10 minutes to respond to an email question regarding his stance on the bill, declaring he would
www.ibtimes.com
When you have the momentum I guess things can go wild. That zerban guy really did play this perfect and his quick response kept it from loosing steam. I think things like this show us that the public does want to do something and they are just looking to latch onto something they think might work. They no longer have the OWS outlet o they are now going home and logging in.
OBAMA Just Ninja Signed the NDAA:
۩ said:
We know its there, but we promise not to use it. At least we promise not to tell you if we use it. In the interests of national security, its best for you if we don't tell you if we use this...
