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Different forms of ingestion and dosages (smoked dmt, jurema/mimosa, syrian rue, ayahuasca, etc)

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Do you just use a cold water extraction for LSA? Something tells me that you have a better method :)
I've read a few LSA extractions from HBWR, and they seem very messy and almost pointless. Is there a better way?
 
strychnine vs. lsd is quite a nice combo in my opinion. i like to take my strychnine like an hour before the acid drops. it increases the brightness of colors and makes you more sensitive to the subtle effects. very nice. not a myth. one just needs to be informed that a trip contains strychnine because otherwise hardheads might be killing themselves when they take too many trips.
 
you can get the strychnine in the pharmacy. they got these homeopathic little sugarballs. i take 3-8 of those.
 
so you can vaporize 50-100mg of harmaline to make dmt active ORALLY? how long are the effects when you smoke the stuff and how soon can you take the dmt afterwards?
 
endlessness said:
Hey guys.. I thought that it would be very useful to put the info on dosages of all different forms in one thread. I just start with preliminar information I have and please you all add your own opinions/information and I will keep editing this first post.. so here we go:

DMT


ORAL (WITH MAOIS):
Moderate/Strong dose: 100mg (different opinions?)
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A guy on the bus told me that it depends for him. Here's what he told me:

100mg oral DMT + 4-5g Rue extract = moderately visual deeply introspective 6h experience.

200-250mg oral DMT + 2g Rue extract = Breakthrough halucinations for 1-2h, intense visuals for ~2h. Steep dropoff and relatively clear head for entire ~3-4h experience.

The latter was reported to be much more pleasant but the former was more usefull.
 
Jorkest said:
how long does everybody wait after taking their maoi's before they take the spice?
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I don't have a standard procedure with this. With ayahuasca, you can drink a mixture of both and it still works fine. The main difference is that if you take the MAOI first, the DMT works faster. With a large dose, it can even work within minutes to seconds, like with snorted DMT. And you will even get this WOOOOSSSSSHH headrush.
I just wait, until i feel my stomach can take a new load of botanicals.
 
Anyone know about making snuff from Virola bark? SWIM read a few things and it seemed pretty easy for him to obtain. Any knowledge about it let SWIM know.
 
endlessness said:
JUREMA/MIMOSA HOSTILIS INNER ROOTBARK


ORAL (WITH MAOIS):
Moderate/Strong Dose: 9g (source: Plants of the Gods)
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If you have good material, 3 gram may be quite strong. 9 gram I tend to think may be overkill for people trying it the first time, thinking it to be a moderate dose. Better be safe than end up in the hospital, which incidentally happened very recently with a guy on the ayahuasca forum.
 
Dagger said:
endlessness said:
JUREMA/MIMOSA HOSTILIS INNER ROOTBARK


ORAL (WITH MAOIS):
Moderate/Strong Dose: 9g (source: Plants of the Gods)
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If you have good material, 3 gram may be quite strong. 9 gram I tend to think may be overkill for people trying it the first time, thinking it to be a moderate dose. Better be safe than end up in the hospital, which incidentally happened very recently with a guy on the ayahuasca forum.
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Added a little warning there now... thanks :)
 
I must be very sensitive to caapi because the most I use is 35 grams. 100grams wow. I guess if I was going to make a huge batch and drink it all day.
 
Dagger said:
endlessness said:
JUREMA/MIMOSA HOSTILIS INNER ROOTBARK


ORAL (WITH MAOIS):
Moderate/Strong Dose: 9g (source: Plants of the Gods)
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If you have good material, 3 gram may be quite strong. 9 gram I tend to think may be overkill for people trying it the first time, thinking it to be a moderate dose. Better be safe than end up in the hospital, which incidentally happened very recently with a guy on the ayahuasca forum.
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:) Cheers for this thread,
so to confirm [I'm considering taking the ayahuasca (oral pathway) for the first time soon] so any clarification to my quick question would be well appreciated as i've found quite a variety of views on the various forums.

based on a recipe of -
A] ~35 - 50 grams Caapi [made into tea], per person. Drink the Caapi tea e.g. 20-30mins before ingesting the Mimosa tea
B] 6 - 9 grams Mimosa hostilis powdered root bark [made into tea and drunk] per person.

This will give a trip of 4-6 hours

As an extra note - how long will the Caapi MAOI's last in the persons system after an ayahuasca trip and affect anything else i take?
[e.g. if i smoke some DMT 2 days later or take e.g. mushrooms will it be affected (i.e. made stronger due to the presence of the MAOI still in my system)?]

Thanks,
 
lorax said:
you can get the strychnine in the pharmacy. they got these homeopathic little sugarballs. i take 3-8 of those.
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Homeopathic remedies don't contain any of the so called "active ingredient". Not even an atom of it. They rely completely upon the placebo effect. This is not to say that the placebo effect doesn't work; incredibly enough it actually does work to some extent.

And of course there are no side effects. ;)
 
Endlessness-first of all, excellent post.

You state that the dose for a moderate-strong experience of vaporised DMT is 50mg.Surely this would depend on the technique employed ie vaporiser vs bonged between a sandwich of barrier leaves (vs my personal favorite, good old aluminium foil)?

I think the number and size of inhalations required to zap the dose is also an important consideration when quantifying the intensity of the experience.50mg in 2 breaths on foil would be a very strong dose for me.

I guess its hard to account for all the variables but I sincerely believe that technique and number of inhalations can severely affect the intensity of the experience.
 
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