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DMT after a breakup.
- Thread starter Sky Motion
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I did it once but on very low dose just to help me have deeper introspective thoughts and figure out what went wrong with my relationship.
It was great help because I was able to figure out things that were right in front of me the whole time but never paid attention to, felt like an idiot after figuring it out and went to ex's to talk about what I had just realized and we've had no issues or fights since then.
It was great help because I was able to figure out things that were right in front of me the whole time but never paid attention to, felt like an idiot after figuring it out and went to ex's to talk about what I had just realized and we've had no issues or fights since then.
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Yup.
Prepare to go deep, thats all I can say.
Going into hyperspace with that kind of pain is not something I think everyone is gunna want to do.
Dont expect a quick fix for a broken heart, there isn't one. It's the worst kind of pain I dont wish on any soul. It's an invitiation to look in the mirror, long as you dont break the damn thing.
Ive been doing this for months.
Trust me when I say this.
I know.
Walk through hell brother(sister?)..
Your on your own.
Walk through hell.
You might find yourself out on the other side.
My condolennces.
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Yup.
Prepare to go deep, thats all I can say.
Going into hyperspace with that kind of pain is not something I think everyone is gunna want to do.
Dont expect a quick fix for a broken heart, there isn't one. It's the worst kind of pain I dont wish on any soul. It's an invitiation to look in the mirror, long as you dont break the damn thing.
Ive been doing this for months.
Trust me when I say this.
I know.
Walk through hell brother(sister?)..
Your on your own.
Walk through hell.
You might find yourself out on the other side.
My condolennces.
Nathanial.Dread
Esteemed member
Depends on what you're looking for.
Will it make the pain go away? Probably not, but it might give you insights into what went wrong in your relationship, or how to best process the pain in a healthy way.
Blessings
~ND
Will it make the pain go away? Probably not, but it might give you insights into what went wrong in your relationship, or how to best process the pain in a healthy way.
Blessings
~ND
Sky Motion said:
If it were me, I would wait for the initial shock to wear off, give myself time to re-integrate, ground myself with activities like walking out in nature, working with my hands. Following a good diet with lots of fresh, pure water and sunshine (corny, I know, but so very effective). Then when I feel I am ready, I might work with energy gathering/nurturing techniques such as Qigong or yoga, followed by slow integration of plant teachers.
But for now, if you feel like crying, pour your heart out.
Seriously. It feels so good and is incredibly cleansing.
Let it purge.
“The organs weep the tears the eyes refuse to shed” — Sir William Osler
You may then feel your heart chakra opening. Love unconditionally. Accept your emotions and then detach.
No need to re-stimulate the emotions once the lesson has been learned.:!:
Focus on your Intention, your goals, while appreciating everything precious in your life right now, at this moment, so that you can carry compassion with you wherever you go, wherever you are.
This may not be, prolly isn't, the common right regarding dmt, but from my experience it isn't as introspective as other psychedelics or even weed. I've done dmt while going through some seriously difficult life circumstances, hoping for some insight, including the recent suicide attempt of a very good friend-my partner actually.
While I have experienced great anti-depressant effects from it (tryptamines are my anti-depressant actually, the only ones that have ever worked for me) and have had powerful emotionally healing effects from it, I don't go into a head space where I dwell on issues. Pain has been pulled from me in cathartic way, in strange psychedelic ways like vomiting a gigantic black boa that dissolved into black smoke as it left, but again, it was not a mind-eff like I've experienced with say LSD or psilocybin or THC.
I'm truly not suggesting any course of action on your part, only relating my story. Like Jamie said, the loss of love is one of the must painful things you will ever go through, and there is a LONG process of grieving that one must endure. You can't get over it, you can't go around it, you just got to go through it. Maybe though, dmt might help you get to a place that makes it easier. I don't know about it helping you to understand, but it may lift some if the brain fog.
One piece of advice I was given by a friend when I was enduring a loss in my life that I found near impossible to endure was this: you just have to let go. Stop clinging to him/her and the past. You are just going to have to be in this hell. Hang, and burn, let go, and you will come through.
Peace be with you friend, you got a friend somewhere.
While I have experienced great anti-depressant effects from it (tryptamines are my anti-depressant actually, the only ones that have ever worked for me) and have had powerful emotionally healing effects from it, I don't go into a head space where I dwell on issues. Pain has been pulled from me in cathartic way, in strange psychedelic ways like vomiting a gigantic black boa that dissolved into black smoke as it left, but again, it was not a mind-eff like I've experienced with say LSD or psilocybin or THC.
I'm truly not suggesting any course of action on your part, only relating my story. Like Jamie said, the loss of love is one of the must painful things you will ever go through, and there is a LONG process of grieving that one must endure. You can't get over it, you can't go around it, you just got to go through it. Maybe though, dmt might help you get to a place that makes it easier. I don't know about it helping you to understand, but it may lift some if the brain fog.
One piece of advice I was given by a friend when I was enduring a loss in my life that I found near impossible to endure was this: you just have to let go. Stop clinging to him/her and the past. You are just going to have to be in this hell. Hang, and burn, let go, and you will come through.
Peace be with you friend, you got a friend somewhere.
Like the criteria for psychedelic creativity studies, the most profound introspection comes when someone is invested heavily in something very complicated.
Personally, I would vote for ayahuasca over DMT, but any psychedelic can help you bring some closure to emotional experiences. I happen to know there are a lot of difficult emotions that can be hard to face and process in the wake of a breakup. It's hard to face difficult realities.
If you're prepared to face it all in one sitting, go for it. Be brave and go towards the pain. Make an effort to face it. Keep notes. Use items or pictures to help you focus on the relationship. Otherwise, if you're not up for dealing with it yet, wait.
Personally, I would vote for ayahuasca over DMT, but any psychedelic can help you bring some closure to emotional experiences. I happen to know there are a lot of difficult emotions that can be hard to face and process in the wake of a breakup. It's hard to face difficult realities.
If you're prepared to face it all in one sitting, go for it. Be brave and go towards the pain. Make an effort to face it. Keep notes. Use items or pictures to help you focus on the relationship. Otherwise, if you're not up for dealing with it yet, wait.
There are basically two successful yet conflicting ways I've found for entering hyperspace. One is for entering by preserving classical set/setting theory in which you try to go in with the best mindset, feeling at your top in the best setting you can muster. Alternatively the "alchemical" route can be just as rewarding if not more so in which you transform your "nigredo" into "gold". After all, if we are to talk about these things like medicines, then it should be acknowledged that one takes a medicine when one is sick or not necessarily at the top of one's game. Therefore, it may not always be ideal to strictly follow set/setting theory. There have been times when I've entered hyperspace completely fatigued, and exhausted, and those have been some of my best experiences. Either way is a gamble really. It always is. I think you're more than aware of the stakes at hand Sky Motion, so the decision to make is all yours.
As Global says, whilst he general advice is to pay attention to set and setting ane go in with a positive mindset. The opposite is also possible, but there is no way I could advise this approach to anyone.
Saying that, after the end up of a relationship that lasted 1/3 of my life I found great utility in destroying myself repeatedly over the course of several years with spice. It did not fix anything – it did grant me temporary reprieve from the pain, it did allow me to find reasons to carry on with life, it did allow me deep introspection.
As I said it isn’t a game I can advise to anyone. I rarely found the love and light that so many wax on about in my experiences, quite the opposite. I imagine the approach I took could actually be quite damaging to many.
5 years after the break up I started to find some peace, and while I definitely give DMT some credit in this it was just one part of it. The most useful thing I thing I have found was getting out of my environment and throwing myself into a new situation 18 months ago. 6 years down the line I would say that spending most of my time in solitude recently has been the most useful tool.
We are all unique whatever. None of our experiences, within consensus reality or without, are the same. We can only decide for ourselves what feels right, and again referring back to Global – it is a gamble.
Saying that, after the end up of a relationship that lasted 1/3 of my life I found great utility in destroying myself repeatedly over the course of several years with spice. It did not fix anything – it did grant me temporary reprieve from the pain, it did allow me to find reasons to carry on with life, it did allow me deep introspection.
As I said it isn’t a game I can advise to anyone. I rarely found the love and light that so many wax on about in my experiences, quite the opposite. I imagine the approach I took could actually be quite damaging to many.
5 years after the break up I started to find some peace, and while I definitely give DMT some credit in this it was just one part of it. The most useful thing I thing I have found was getting out of my environment and throwing myself into a new situation 18 months ago. 6 years down the line I would say that spending most of my time in solitude recently has been the most useful tool.
We are all unique whatever. None of our experiences, within consensus reality or without, are the same. We can only decide for ourselves what feels right, and again referring back to Global – it is a gamble.
My advice..
Dont think too hard on it.
Dont worry about end results, goals, objectives..
Forget all of that.
Just release into your own horribly beautiful energy. Feel all of it.
Smoke and scream if you have to.
Dont think too hard on it.
Dont worry about end results, goals, objectives..
Forget all of that.
Just release into your own horribly beautiful energy. Feel all of it.
Smoke and scream if you have to.
Very helpful advice from everyone, I know the risks.. they're always there regardless of life situations. Spice is too much for me it always have been and I think I'll pass on it.
Was just curious.. don't know if I was truly in love but definitely hurting.
Love you all, xo
Was just curious.. don't know if I was truly in love but definitely hurting.
Love you all, xo
I second this. Any deep psychedelic experience can help, but Ayahuasca is a true healer.Warrior said:
This is exactly what helped me out of the tail end of a long term relationship myself. The psychedelics were always there, they've been a part of my life for quite some time now. But this helped more than anything.d*l*b said:
New environment, new relationships (doesn't have to be intimate), and lots of "me" time for self-reflection will definitely aid you in moving into a new chapter in your life.
Yup, I think the thing with the loss of a long term relationship, and maybe moreso if like my experience it was in a point of your life where you became a [more] fully formed person (edit: hmm, I guess that is ongoing!) you lose sight of what you are as you don’t really identify with any other situation.Metanoia said:
For me spice was very good for smashing down a lot of walls and realising my part in relationship destruction, my quirks, my actions and their effects on others (in general as well as in relation to the break up). It also helped me to understand how psychologically strong I am. If you can go through the worst the psychedelic experience can throw at you and come out alright on the other side then you can deal with anything. Earthly problems can be seen in a slightly more logical way.
The largest thing I found that I had to deal with was loneliness. I had been a part of a partnership pretty much the whole of my adult life and found it difficult to work as a single entity. As a result of that I jumped into several relationships I shouldn’t have and didn’t deal with the fact that I had to find out who I was and how to do the game of reality with nobody to support me. That was where an unexpected move (to be honest I wouldn’t have done it out of choice at the time) and a new situation that gave me the space to just be me came in useful. After over a year in this situation I think I feel more levelled out than I have since I was a kid and didn’t really have any worries as such.
try to be purposelessness.
There is nothing to figure out.
There is nothing to describe..
..nothing to fix.
There is only release.
Ask yourself..
..what is holding you back right NOW?..
and then dont try to define it..feel it..acknowledge it. And release it.
There is nothing else.
There is only now. That is the purpose and you get to it through purposelessness.
Thats what the medicine shows me.
Doing it, is the work..and it is what bring true happiness in life.
We dont live for yesterday, or hope for tommorow..we dont love for someone else. These things are shadows that we cast into the moment. They are essential and must be acknowledged, but they are not to be confused with the moment itself.
They are innitiation into the moment.
and then you realize, it's all still there.
There is nothing to figure out.
There is nothing to describe..
..nothing to fix.
There is only release.
Ask yourself..
..what is holding you back right NOW?..
and then dont try to define it..feel it..acknowledge it. And release it.
There is nothing else.
There is only now. That is the purpose and you get to it through purposelessness.
Thats what the medicine shows me.
Doing it, is the work..and it is what bring true happiness in life.
We dont live for yesterday, or hope for tommorow..we dont love for someone else. These things are shadows that we cast into the moment. They are essential and must be acknowledged, but they are not to be confused with the moment itself.
They are innitiation into the moment.
and then you realize, it's all still there.
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