DMT in a Mechanical E-Cig Tek

[Caturlife]

There have been several threads about smoking xtals from an E-cig but after searching I was unable to find a method like SWIM's. So I figured that it should be shared.

What you need:

-Spice
-A stove top for heat
-A small metal mixing cup
-A stirring device (not pictured, whoops)
-E-cig juice of your choosing. Non nicotine works best as it is easier to hold in.
-A Mechanical E-cig. These are the larger contraptions which are simply a battery and two or more coils on top. These E-cigs can reach higher temperatures and give large clouds of vapor.

This process is very simple.

1. Place your xtals into your mixing cup. The amount shown is just for example. Using .3g or more will yield a nice bit of blasty juice.

2. Drip your E-cig juice onto the top of the xtals. Use just enough juice to cover or wet the xtals, adding too much juice will result in a dilute final product. SWIM suggests using a 1:1 ratio of spice to juice. Higher concentrations of spice will give you a stronger product, but e-cig juice is messy and there is naturally a certain amount lost when handled or poured into a different container.

3. Mix the two ingredients together with a mixing stick. While holding the cup touch the bottom of it to a stove burner set on 2-3. Do not let the cup sit on the burner or get too hot. You should be able to hold the cup the entire time. If you add too much heat the juice will begin to vaproize.

4. Once mixed to where no xtals are visible, pour the juice into a small container or directly into the cotton of your E-cig.

Smoking:
Take a big hit, and hold it in! Buying a large bore tip for your E-cig (as pictured) will allow you to take larger and less harsh hits. If your E-cig gives really harsh hits try using a bong with no water and just a cube of ice in it. Press the tip of the E-cig into where the slide would go and rip it. While smoking your E-cig will get hotter with successive hits, but that is okay keep going. Once the hit tastes like spice you are doing it very, very right. In SWIM's experience even hits with no taste can be effective. Experiment with it and find the most effective way to hit your E-cig. Long slow hits usually do better. Keep hitting it until you get where you want to go. With this method the spice can creep up on you after a few seconds so be patient. On a side note no taste also will mean no smell when exhaled

WITH GREAT POWER COMES GREAT RESPONSIBILITY. Remember that there is a time and a place to do this, dont let the convenience of this method get you in a bad spot. Much love!

 

[hadoq]

amazing post, I'm a dripper user myself and I was wondering, all the topics I've read were about ego likes or cigalikes but I always thought that dripping may work.

Since I'm about to do my first extract for my first experience, I wouldn't risk and waste products trying this but I kept wondering.

How about the resistance? is it a sub ohm build like 0.5, 0.8ohm or "super" sub ohm like 0.2, 0.15

I have 0nic 100% VG juice here, I may try it. Is your juice 50/50 ?

Using .3g or more

300mg? isn't that a lot?

 

[Caturlife]

Thanks man! I am not an experienced dripper user, but a friend has several mods with varying coil setups and it has worked in all of them. Also 300mg is just an amount that I like to mix up at once and put in a container. My juice is PG. I can't say that I have knowingly tried VG but I have tried a couple different juices and they have all worked. Also with the 1:1 ratio it usually takes 3 or 4 big hits and then you start to get out there.

 

[hadoq]

Thanks, I'll definitely try, but not quite right now, I will first try to have sub breakthrough experiences since I'm not at all familiar with any psychedelic (besides cannabis).

So you put 300mg in like 3ml of juice and use it whenever?

doesn't the product re-crystalize? you have to heat it up every time you feel like doing DMT?

 

[Caturlife]

I usually just eyeball it and wet the xtals as pictured. And it just like any normal e-cig juice. Your spice will stay in solution like sugar in water. No need to reheat or anything, drip it on whenever you like. Also good luck with your extraction, I am pretty excited for you! It is a very rewarding experience.

 

[hadoq]

today's the big day

this is how I decided to do it for the first time, at first experimenting with a couple drops worth of juice and a small amount of spice.

I'll post reports


how far did you go using this method, when it comes to the actual experience? is it breakthrough worthy?

first test will be using dual coils (more juice being vaporized), in a dripper, but I'll use a VW device (IPV2) so I can take it slow, see where the ideal results are, in terms of wattage.

then I'll be able to determine the ideal resistance setting for use on a mech mod.

 

[sbc1]

Let us no how it goes hadoq, and what you did

 

[hadoq]

alright, I did post a report but I might as well post some bits here as well

so first off, I realized my scale, in no way, shape or form, would be able to register 10 or 15mg, it could barely register 50 and such a dose was definitely out of the question as it was my very first time with DMT.

my plan was to mix 10mg with a couple of drops, just enough for a single wick/single coil.

I probably did a little bit more in the end, but whatever, I decided to try

I first took medium/small hits

nothing

larger hits, I had a very light body high and some pressure behind the middle of my forehead.

a light high that lasted for maybe 10 minutes and quickly went down (not all the way down, but say from 100% to 20%)


anyway, after some tries, I noticed I was probably wasting crystals at that point.

I had that small cup I used for my mix, it had reminding crystals in it, not much, so I decided to mix them with more juice and vape them.

there was really few crystals so I didn't expect much. I decided to chain vape 3 or 4 large hits.

then something definitely happened, no visuals aside the impression that the whole world was moving along with my head, that fuzzy kind of feel like in the old romantic movies, and a much distinct body high and definite euphoria.




I stopped there, it was fun, maybe even too much fun.


I used 0nic, 100%VG juice (no flavor)

the chain vape/big hits is what I believe worked best.
obviously the quantities were too small to provide a full on psychedelic experience.


I was sold on the idea that the dripper/ejuice way would work.

I still believe it's a way worth exploring, but it'll probably be much harder than I though to come up with a reliable way to vape DMT.

I should also add that the taste was fairly pleasant, not harsh at all

 

[obliguhl]

Regarding chain hits: You do need to keep each hit in for around 20 seconds. If your hits are big enough, it's going to be very hard to take more than three of them in a row because you'll be physically incapable of doing so.

 

[sbc1]

im interested in the e-cig route, has this worked for anyone if so what did use do

 

[wearepeople]

im interested in the e-cig route, has this worked for anyone if so what did use do

Here's a list of threads of various attempts:

[Thread List] E-Ciggs & DMT - Other - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

 

[Caturlife]

I can say from experience that it works. Keep with it, I had to try different concentrations of spice and methods of hitting it. Try to dissolve as much spice into the juice as you can and hit it like you want it! Myself and several others have had powerful results. It usually takes me 4 to 5 big hits to get out there. Much love

 

[anrchy]

What ohm resistance are you using

 

[ScientificMethod]

So I think you're basically using the same technique that others on the forum have done with tank systems, but with a drip type ecig, if I'm not mistaken. I think Anchry was going to try this--I'm pleased to hear your results.

My question: have you tested it's lifespan? Have you taken more than 50 drags, and I so, did it leave the coils at all goopy?

And thanks for sharing! We are glad for your input!

 

[Caturlife]

3.6 ohms. Yep, this is pretty much the same tek with a drip tip. And I have not had any issues with the coils getting gooped up, at an event it was widely shared and there were definitely more than 50 tokes without any buildup on the coils. This isn't the most efficient method I have ever used to smoke but the convenience adds a new dimension to your journeys. I just tried an 18650 dual coil atomizer with a wide bore tip on top of a 22650 battery. It has two 26awg coils each with 5 wraps and has worked way better than the previous mods! I have noticed that the longer/hotter tokes are the way to go. I am not sure if the spice gets vaporized while still in solution or if the juice vaporizes leaving the spice behind to be vaped on the coil by itself. But the lack of smell makes me think it stays in solution. The vapor can carry nicotine in solution so maybe spice too. I would love to hear some other sucessful attempts. Thanks for the interest guys, glad to share!

 

[sbc1]

Have you got any picures of your new atomizer and battery caturlife

 

[ScientificMethod]

Are any of you hearing reports of "D-pens" on the street? I live in a fairly small town (fewer than 100,000 residents) of mostly college kids and new-age hippies. So there is a thriving psychedelic culture, which could be why I'm hearing about them, but I wanted to hear y'all's take.

I first heard about the "D-pen" this summer at a local music festival, and that's what got me researching into it. Then since I've started making them (for only myself and my brother), I've heard word of several different people doing similar things though. It sounds like, on any given night in my town, there are 3-6 of these things floating around downtown. I've even seen them and had people offer me a toke, but I've always declined.

I'm wondering if any of you all have heard such talk on the street. I don't like it one bit--I figure the quieter this is, the better, but this doesn't seem to be representative of the ethos in my town.

Anyways, that's my 2 cents.

I haven't made a lot more progress with research as I've been sticking with the 1:1 mix and switching atomizer every 1/2 tank. I've also been using the GVG a lot more and that's taken my attention away from the pens. I can report however that my 1/2 strength pen experiments didn't really pan out and I'm going to stick with a 1:1 ratio for all future studies unless a new variable makes itself apparent.

Love.

Science.

Beauty.

 

[sbc1]

Hey SM no never heard of them do you have a picture or out

 

[ScientificMethod]

A picture? You mean a picture of the pens that have been going around? No. I do not. There are a couple methods that I've heard people using:

1) Ecig with a tank just like we've been experimenting with above.
2) Ecig with the drip system which has also been discussed (though not as much experimented with) above.
3) a ball of BHO rolled in spice and vaped off of a BHO wax pen.

 

[Caturlife]

The other setup is the same as the one pictured except with a larger battery.