DMT: Mental or Cosmic?

[eextreme]

Hi,

I am a new member of this forum and would like to know if the things experienced during a trip is a merged image of all the things we see in our daily lives or a set of events shown to us by the universe itself. (The universe is how we see it, so it could go either way).

My perception comes from the idea that as we go through our daily lives we pick up sub-consciously the event and things around us either through feeling (wind), seeing (everything beyond our blind spot), taste (every particle that may enter our mouth), and everything that can be heard (even during states of deep focus).

From the DMT: Spirit Molecule documentary they also indicate that the chemical composition fits almost like a jigsaw puzzle on another organic combination in our body. Is that the origin of these experiences and that everytime we go a on trip everything we see is pieced together from our memories?

I also would like to know where I can take part in this experiment.

I look forward to your responses.

Thanks

 

[Jin]

cosmic

 

[3rdI]

divine moments of truth, total and utter cosmic stuff.

 

[Michal_R]

Both (sometimes even both simultaneously)

I am saying both, because what DMT taught me is that this "either-or" dualist way of thinking doesn´t always apply in Hypespace. I also learned that anything is possible under DMT, including the transgression of all forms of dualism...

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

i too would say both.

you could even go so far as to say that the cosmos is of the mind. or that consciousness is cosmic.

tomayto-tomahto (that idiom does not translate well to text), imo.

 

[bluesky]

I would also say both.

Sometimes what is experienced during a tripp seems to be stuff that could be floating around in your mind subconsciously and sometimes it is things that seems to be impossible to have come frome ones own mind. At least this is my experience.

 

[Doodazzle]

Both.



The gods just might be crazy.

 

[Mustelid]

After doing DMT, I'm not sure there is a difference.

 

[john doe]

both. if you think about it the universe is in you.
the same things that make us and put us together, are the same molecules
that create other forms of life. we are cosmic.
i think are body wisdom is a good representation of all this.
if you really pay attention this will almost guide you.
every single cell in are body has already evolved to work together.
are consciousness must follow to see a bigger picture.
i think dmt show us all the variables between the universe and us
that are currently occurring.

 

[○]

Consciousness is cosmic. This primal form of awareness/consciousness is the fundamental property of everything including us, and dmt imho shows this, to some degree. We can't escape this subjective awareness, the universe can't escape this awareness, forever spiraling into infinity. One giant thought.

 

[DMTripper]

As above, so below....

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

As above, so below....

as within.. so without.

 

[Knoxville]

We are the Universe experiencing itself. Therefore it's both. The notion that everything you experience in hyperspace and the entities you meet are just in your head, I generally disagree with. That is more reminiscent of lucid dreaming than breaking through.

 

[Guyomech]

Great responses, everyone.

DMT is the moment when the illusionary boundary between your self and the cosmos disappears.

 

[○]

Great responses, everyone.

DMT is the moment when the illusionary boundary between your self and the cosmos disappears.

 

[hamsa]

Absolutely both.

It takes Ones own personal Mental experiences to wager against the Cosmic slop of the hallucinogenic One.

The deepest core of your own operating system then communicates with the operating system above.

BREAK THRU.

You come out with visions you never knew existed, yet have historical spiritual validity?... (Cosmic)

or

You render previous feelings or emotions useless. Taken back to an experience that formed a crystalized diamond in your mind, forever shining light on darkness, or vice versa....Depending on the experience (Mental)

Dog Speed Rars Mover!!!!


hamsa

 

[universecannon]

its really awesome to see our experiences/views converge in this way :thumb_up:

 

[eextreme]

I wonder if anyone had tried this but a way to make sure that it is cosmic or mental you could try giving visual descriptions of an event or situation to a person who is under the influence of DMT and see if what they experience at the end of it is your story or something completely different.

Nonetheless, I do agree with the idea that the experience is combination of everything from what I've read from DMT the spirit molecule.I think that the rush and elevated body functions at the beginning of the experience is the body or mind drawing up everything you are (or have experience).

 

[Michal_R]

...a way to make sure that it is cosmic or mental...

:d

 

[Infectedstyle]

If you can visit the same place, with another person. simultaneously. Like a three-way conversation with a single entity in hyperspace. Then yes, i think this is sure evidence that hyperspace is more than only inside your own brain.

We smoked some weed on the comedown of mushrooms last week. Me and a friend. She said she started tripping and having visions. I did not quite understand the intensity of her experience. Until i looked at the ceiling and there was a divine woman painted there.

The energy was coming from my friend's hallucinations. I am pretty sure. Especially considering the mushrooms barely affected me besides a slight body load. And that's when i knew she was truly tripping.