DMT Off switch

[majesticnature]

This is something of a theoretical chemistry geared topic. Considering the members who have had DMT trips that they have deemed as nothing less then an experience of an eternal hell and suffering, and with more and more people diving into the DMT realms, I just wanted to bring to surface the idea or possibility of a compound that would baseline the excess dmt in your system instantly bringing you out of the trip. I realize many bad trips are due to lack of attention to dose quantity and respect for the DMT. I am not focusing on this group however I am focusing on the whole community and it would seem only ethical to raise the awareness of such scenarios and how we can handle them in the future, with more and more people smoking the DMT, maybe some of them do not belong in those realms, and should have a fail-safe.

I have never known something that could make someone un-drunk, or un-high, but is it not with-in the realm of possibility? I believe with in nature for every up there is a down. We know our government isn't going to this for us regardles of the rate at which people are diving in. It is a real issue tho, this stuff is both divine and dangerous.

 

[۩]

How about instead of taking a drug, you relax, take a deep breath, and meditate.

I think this is a far better option than taking some kind of pharmaceutical or something.

Why run from the experience when you can experience it?
Why do DMT at all if you aren't going to train yourself to be able to handle it?

That's just the way I see it. What we are doing here takes practice, and it certainly is not for everyone.

 

[corpus callosum]

Certainly with vaporised DMT and changa, the duration of action of these is so short that any effective 'bring you back to baseline' agent would need to be given IV (or at a push, IM/rectal) in order to exert its effects before the DMT trip has followed its time-course and abated.

 

[Global]

In the case of long-term acting psychedelics, one can have xanax on standby, so in the event of a freakout, the xanax can reduce anxiety in a matter of minutes (a lot of it is all in your head anyway). You'd still be tripping, but at least you're now tripping in peace. It can reduce the trippiness slightly. With smoked DMT, there's no chemistry that will really help you other than being prepared for handling a situation gone awry. [edit]: your body's MAO system is probably the best DMT off-switch you have. Without it, disasters could be experienced over quadruple the amount of time if not longer!

Something that is perhaps under-emphasized with these disaster tales is that if you're having a hard time on any of these psychedelics, it's most likely because you have an issue not with the drug, but in your day to day life. If you're facing difficulties in the trip, it's because it's bringing those issues to the fore so you can work through them and deal with them effectively, even if it hurts or is uncomfortable or scares the bejeezus out of you.

As opposed to coming up with a chemistry solution, people should be aware of their "options" to help them get through or turn around the trying event. The number one thing they can work on is learning to "let go." It's much easier said than done, and because of this it requires some practice. If you were to chemically abort every DMT trip gone awry, then you're not developing valuable tools not only to get you through hyperspace safe and sound, but for dealing with negativity in your life in general when it comes around. In any manner, in a lot of cases aborting a frightening DMT trip can be as easy as opening your eyes. Everything will still be morphing with patterns in all liklihood and some people can't deal with this either (and if you're one of those people, DMT probably isn't for you anyway). Alternatively having someone cue music you've pre-selected (or you can do it yourself if capable) can be an instant game changer. For the most part, the vibrations of music seem to override the system. It can have instantaneously profound effects and can often overpower uncomfortable racing thoughts. Either way, people having disaster trips should be focusing more on why they psychologically found it to be such a disaster, and less-so on how to get high on DMT and have a ball every time. It's more of a teacher than a drug.

 

[great_blue]

What we are doing here takes practice, and it certainly is not for everyone.

well said house..

 

[Caravel]

in the realm of psychedelics there is no "good" or "bad" if someone was to see or feel something good or bad what they are experiencing is the reflection of one's self - if one was to have repeated bad experiences maby the problem is not the drug but the person who is taking it - a better option than trying to take a second drug to switch off the first drug would be to accept the experience as it is presented and when it has ended think back to what made it a poor experience, what was the set, the setting, what mind frame was the user in at the time, the events one experienced over the last couple of days, was the drug taken to escape reality on the fly or was it planed days in advance?

a poor experience is more likely caused because the user is wanting the experience to end prematurely and realizes that he/she is unable to grasp reality while under the influence - if this is the case then why would a person want it to end? was too much taken? did time play a role? did an event arise which required one to be in touch with reality? i think it would be better to look at the events that played out during a poor experience than to find an "on/off" switch - a person could learn much from all experiences good or bad and with enough experience it is possible to know what throws you off in the first place and how to counter it before the pipe is even warmed up

 

[VoidTraveler]

Am I the only one that has the idea that this thread is highlighting one of the biggest problem is today's society: The quickfix. Instead of having to go through some effort to fix something that is broken or gone awry it's looking for the easy way out. Either by taking a pill or powder and bam, problem solved.

Unfortunately life doesn't work like that. In fact, the quickfix has made us lazy and we crave for that easy way out. We're no longer capable of dealing with harsh conditions, be it mental or physical. Oh, something bad comes up, ah well, let's pop a pill to fix it.

 

[gibran2]

There is a DMT “pre-emptive” off switch: Don’t take DMT.

It’s the best way to have 100% assurance that your experience won’t be difficult.

 

[majesticnature]

I agree that common sense and the application of known principles pertaining to the quality of the trip should be the foundation and that which is used first to assure a good experience.

however what about people that do blunder into an awful experience like dr pshychonaut

Once I believed I WOULD NEVER DO DMT EVER AGAIN. Beware dark and hostile forces... - DMT Experiences - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

The level of torture he endured in this trip is beyond any lesson and for the sake of human commpasion i simply raised the idea of such an on off switch for simply awareness and consideration.

 

[۩]

It happens. These experiences make us stronger. Much can be gained from a hellish trip.

 

[actualfactual]

It happens. These experiences make us stronger. Much can be gained from a hellish trip.

Exactly. The most terrifying trips tend to teach the most. You can get tremendous benefit from such an experience.

 

[oden]

If your going to be in the band you got to play an instrument.. as my dad would say... you gonna jump you gotta take the ride...

 

[universecannon]

extract the ticket - take the ride

 

[Hiyo Quicksilver]

Wherever you go, there you are. Simple as that... If you don't like the idea, please for the love of everything good and right in the universe, don't smoke DMT. The "Abort" button isn't always there.