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DMT - the end of my visuals

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Tobi85

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Hello guys, i am new here in the nexus. I come from Germany and my english is not so good, please excuse.
At first a short review of my DMT experience. Last year i was in Peru and did a great Ayahuasca retread. It was my first contact with a drug - expect alcohol and it was oooovverwelming šŸ˜ hehe. Two month ago i started vaporizing DMT in an oil pipe. - boom, hyperspace with all its beauty (but not as mind-blowing as Ayahuasca :d ). And i was vaping DMT very often since that time.

But two weeks ago something wired happened. I was vaping about 40-50mg as usual and the CEV started as very time. And then something like a interruption took place. The colors stopped moving and turned into grey and then into black very fast. I was full of fear at this moment. I didn't know what happened. It was absolutely dark in me, no visions, no more connection with hyperspace. The next day i was trying it again but with no effect. As far as i was inhaling the DMT everything in me turned into black shadows ans black fog or something like this. It is hard to explain for me.
I was searching for trip reports with similar descriptions but I found nothing.
Now i hope to find help here.
Has someone a suggestion how such a thing can happen? Maybe i took it to often?
It was definitively NN - DMT, no doubt about it!!
Thanks for your help :) - greetings
 
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Suggestions:

1) Travel with music

2) Change the physical lighting

3) What kind of lighter are you using? I remember one time when I felt like I was being denied entrance no matter what, and it turned out my lighter (though producing a flame) needed to be refilled in order to provide the appropriate amount of heat required for effective vaporization.

4) Try smoking it out of something else

5) When smoking fails, have more DMT ready to instantly follow up with
 
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Have you tried smoking in front of a window with daylight coming through? I find more external light, brighter visuals. Also, more positive emotions (especially love), the more beautiful the colors.
 
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Global said:
Suggestions:

1) Travel with music

2) Change the physical lighting

3) What kind of lighter are you using? I remember one time when I felt like I was being denied entrance no matter what, and it turned out my lighter (though producing a flame) needed to be refilled in order to provide the appropriate amount of heat required for effective vaporization.

4) Try smoking it out of something else

5) When smoking fails, have more DMT ready to instantly follow up with
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Hi, and thanks for the answers. I used music but with no effect. The only thing the music did, was that it helped me to have something I can hold tight. But the deep blackness was still everywhere (with closed eyes). Light in any kind didn't helped. the colored patterns didn't returned. And I always had the best visions without any light until now.
But I have hope for the future. - last time (yesterday) I did a break of 4 days ;) and I entered the wonderland again. I was really happy (it was beautiful again but I was inhaling a decent dose). I vaped one more time after I came back form the breakthrough. But after 2 mins in hyperspace again all the colors become blurred and tuned more and more into dark grey and then black again.
I think Bodhisativa is right. Maybe I need a longer break. Maybe my body is very sensitive for DMT. In Peru I always needed a low dose of Ayahuasca to have a beautiful strong trip for up to 6 hours.
I think I will make a break of two weeks and then try it again.

@NotTwo:
No I didn't, maybe I will try it some day, but lying in the bed is a very good position for me :)
But I still wonder that it seems that I am the only person with this kind of effect.
 
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Tobi85 said:
But I still wonder that it seems that I am the only person with this kind of effect.
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Well I do remember once that I had a migraine in the morning but felt ok by the afternoon, just a very slight sicky headache that follows on from a migraine. I smoked some spice and instead of the multi-colored swirling fractals, it was all a kind of sticky brown and black, not at all fine patterned and not symmetrical. It sounds like a good idea of yours to take a break and maybe try a bit of detox at the same time :)
 
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Tobi85 said:
But I have hope for the future. - last time (yesterday) I did a break of 4 days ;) and I entered the wonderland again.
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A "break of 4 days" suggests that you smoke every day or so... That sounds like a LOT. Possibly your biochemistry has adjusted to break down DMT as soon as you inhale it. Instead of a single break, in your place I'd stop daily use, and wait 3-4 days at least between consecutive doses.
 
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No, you're not the only one. It's not the first time i read testimony of people (at least one or two here on nexus) having the same problem with no more visual or n8 more color.
In fact, I have the same symptoms right now and it's not the first time. I had a short period during my "honeymoon" phase (2 years ago) but it didn't last, after one or two weeks it was back to normal. Now, it's more worrying, 3 month ago it happened again : like if the visual are still here but with no light or behind a dark curtain. So i did a break testing sometimes every weeks here and there but without any positive result. For the new year's eve i have been very glad to have a good experience thinking it was back but 4 days later, i tried one more time and:cry: , no visual again. Since, I tried few times with no result, so I converted my fluffy crystals to fumarate for long term storage hopping it will come back eventually.
I am very sad about it as I didn't have the impression to abuse (1 to 5 sessions/month). I have no clue about what's happening or what to do.
 
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Hey !!! :)
You better try to integrate your experiences. What about your life? Is it healthy ? What about your innerself set ? Your intention ?

Personally i taking dmt not only for visual effects, im more interested in spiritual or subconscious exploring .. call it whatever you like.

For me hyperspace is not one place but many.. Some of them are very dark , pitch black and weird .:twisted: , and you will visit them either you want it or not. I find Dmt very serius substance , and there is only very little (or big) things dependends on you in hyperspace.

Good luck bud ,much love :love:
 
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Good to hear that im not the only one hehe. And good as well that it seems like I just did it to often. And yes I was tripping every day, sometimes one dose after an other.
Thanks for the hints like looking at my person, the way i life and what I eat and so on.
My intention was often enough "I want to be free, I want to be in a beautiful warm place, I want to be in an other world...."
I think I am a pretty healthy person, I do sport almost every day, have no stress in life, I am vegan since two years and I would say I am very spiritual. :) Anyway, I have to admit that I abused DMT a little bit. ;)
I think detox is a good idea for the future. Don't know if there is much to detox in my body. But it can't be bad.
 
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This has happened to me before, always after an overzealous period like the one you have been in. I'm not sure exactly what causes it... DMT is a weird substance.

It always seemed like it was partly because my brain has been so taxed by the frequent flying. However, something you might realize with DMT is that your conscious aspirations/will can often be pretty different than your unconscious aspirations/will. I would be super excited to visit hyperspace, load up the pipe, take a smallish hit, and as I was inhaling the second one I started to kind of mentally "back out" of taking more. My brain was just sending me the message that it did not have enough juice to endure something that powerful right now.

The other thing is... how are you smoalking it? Inconsistent vaporization methods can also be the culprit. Make some changa or better yet, get a GVG. Those are game changers.

Maybe consider taking a few weeks off, getting lots of sleep and exercise, and reflect on what you have learned so far! Hyperspace isn't going anywhere.


All the best,

SR
 
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Tobi85 said:
My intention was often enough "I want to be free, I want to be in a beautiful warm place, I want to be in an other world...."
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Anyway, I have to admit that I abused DMT a little bit. ;)
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A "bit"? Lol man, this ain't no bit. This is the complete works... actually DMT completely amazes me how it can give you such a polite warning about your habits.

I'd salt all my freebase in your place, and stay off psychedelics for a month at least, or until you find something worthwhile to do in consensus space as well. Actually, I've done stuff like this several times in my life when I felt that I'm over-relying on drugs, and I'm really glad I did it.

Tobi85 said:
I think detox is a good idea for the future. Don't know if there is much to detox in my body. But it can't be bad.
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DMT is not a toxin, so there is nothing to detox. You just need to rest your nervous system (and figure out why you felt the need to drop several times a day).
 
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Tobi85 said:
My intention was often enough "I want to be free, I want to be in a beautiful warm place, I want to be in an other world...."
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DMT is not often a great tool for escapism. At least, not for long... Though, in the grand scheme of things, simply being shut out after a heavy period of excess is just about the best possible outcome; You could have been treated much more harshly.

IME, if DMT isn't challenging me, then it's not the proper time to use it.
 
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