Do you believe in spirit guides? Experienced?

[sbios]

I have had a lot of experience with my guides, and yes, they are there. When people come to ayahuasca and san pedro ceremonies, I see all their guides around the ceremonial space nearby, as their guides are with them closely for this experience, to protect them from outside spirits that aren't there for their good, mainly.

Sometimes there is a specialist guide who is with you for a little while in your life to get you through a certain chapter, and then leaves, and other times there is a switch of the guides, but I disagree with the book about the 90 days. You are NEVER unaccompanied by a guardian. What I have seen is that you'll have both the new and old guardians for a while as they gently make the switch, so there isn't a shock to the human. It's a gentle and slow process, not abrupt and NEVER empty space as far as guides are concerned.

The dark night of the soul is something else completely. It's a time when old patterns are dissolving but the new ones aren't set up yet, and old realities go away, but new ones aren't here yet. Your guides are literally carrying you through that!

:thumb_up: yeah I agree. To clarify, the book doesn't say it must be 90 days. It's very close to what you're saying, there's this process of clearing out the space for the new. And in the meantime there will be other supports to assist with the transition. So there's always somehow protection there from other spirits. I remember it says the guides are the conduits to the cosmic energy for the person. The transition period causes a disruption in how a person receives the cosmic energy and thus the dark night of the soul. (I guess it's like suddenly you got locked up in a cave without any sunlight or nourishments and that's gonna make anyone depressed!) It's difficult to convey the idea of the whole description from the book in the format of forum. I probably don't do justice to the book.

 

[universecannon]

Beleif feels mostly limiting to me, but i have many suspicions

 

[BecometheOther]

we are so tiny in the grand scheme of things and know so little. No ones beliefs are 100 percent the truth

What is worse than having incorrect beliefs is judging people for theirs with little firsthand experience or context for what they speak of

There is no path you make the path only by walking

 

[BecometheOther]

Not saying in this thread but there does exist some die hard reductionists and anti-spiritual talk here. I think that dmt without a spiritual basis is downright dangerous.

The main point I would like to make is that if you don't believe in shamanic or spiritual things like spirit guides or have no experience with them, then you really are not in a place to even talk about them and should respect the path of others

 

[pitubo]

I think that dmt without a spiritual basis is downright dangerous.

I think that dmt without a sensible and reasonable basis is even more dangerous.

The main point I would like to make is that if you don't believe in shamanic or spiritual things like spirit guides or have no experience with them, then you really are not in a place to even talk about them and should respect the path of others

What is worse than having incorrect beliefs is judging people for theirs with little firsthand experience or context for what they speak of

But what if I do have lots of firsthand experience with people wallowing in obvious and evident pseudo-spiritualist hogwash? Not subscribing to spirituality does not imply an underlying hardline reductionist fundamentalism. It may be born simply from rational observation of an abundance of empirical evidence.

I'm not fully discounting the possibility of spirituality. Millions of flies buzzing around bullshit do not disprove the possibility of one bee guarding the honey. It is just that these bees are so rare and the flies are so common.

Really, I'd like to see the bee and taste the honey. But don't call me a reductionist for wanting to smell the honey before I swallow it.

 

[BecometheOther]

What other possible sensible reason or basis is there to do dmt other Than spirituality? Self growth? Same thing for the most part.

I understand your point though, and among the true and useful material out there also exists a lot of hogwash that's for sure.

But spirit guides is a pretty well accepted aspect of shamanic practice it's a tried and true concept and should be well within the range of discussion without being called out for being insane not a good look for the nexus it seems immature and defensive

Pitubo I have tasted pure honey and it is sweet

 

[Intezam]

13:44:44 ‹Intezam›Dūraoša - should the intezam reveal the name of the mysterious book? :|

13:44:55 ‹Dūraoša›Yes!

13:46:46 ‹Intezam›Dūraoša - should that not cause further embarrassment?

13:47:01 ‹Dūraoša›Yes!

13:49:31 ‹Intezam›Hmmmh....that is what we/they/them/us was trying to avoid....

13:51:40 ‹Intezam›

13:53:10 ‹Intezam›Uhooooohooooooclicclac should the intezam do that, what do you all say?

13:53:12 ‹Uhooooohooooooclicclac›Yes!

13:54:03 ‹Intezam›Uhooooohooooooclicclac - No Embarrassment then??

13:54:05 ‹Uhooooohooooooclicclac›

13:51:40 ‹Intezam›...:?:

13:52:46 ‹Intezam›Uhooooohooooooclicclac should there be no embarrassment?

13:54:22 ‹Uhooooohooooooclicclac›Yes!

13:55:33 ‹Intezam› Yes? Yes what.....??? :roll:

13:56:53 ‹Intezam› Sannnnnnnd

13:56:54 ‹Sannnnnnnd›

13:56:58 ‹Intezam› Sannnnnnnd should the intezam give the name of the book and author?

13:56:59 ‹Sannnnnnnd› Yes!

13:57:00 ‹Sannnnnnnd› Yes!

13:57:01 ‹Sannnnnnnd› Yes!

13:59:18 ‹Intezam› Okay....we get it....(...we think)

Name of author was:Lee Car-Roll
Name of mysterious book was: K r y - O n - T h e - E n d - T i m e s
Name of merchandise: Kry On Movement

 

[Seagull]

Everybody can help you along your route, and a spirit guide is just one who does that with good intentions.
In philosophy we say that the human being is something like this; A soul on the chariot, with 2 horses infront of it. One with noble intentions and one focused on the lust aspect .
So yea its up to us how far we get dragged to one side or another but it all goes together.

Tho it doesnt seem healthy to me that u say; u should have a 90 days of depression to find out this transitioning, if you close yourself up then theres no room for anything new and vibrant in your life.
+++vibrations , gl on your journey!

 

[sbios]

It's funny when I gave the book info in good faith thinking that'd help others get more insights. It quickly showed some just cannot accept anything other than their own frame of reference. Worse yet the ones holding religious beliefs. Granted perhaps there are a lot of hogwash out there in the metaphysics, heck even in the nexus forum! There are always people who are confined to within their own concept of truth and call out the devil at the first sight of unexplained.

Mere couple hundreds years ago we don't even know the existence of radio wave because we don't believe the existence of something we cannot see. In fact the scientific approach of until it can be measured, it doesn't exist is an outdated concept. Just because something cannot be measured, due to the limitation of technology advancement at the time, it does not equate non-existence.

It's true that some start seeing the connections between spirituality, biology and physics. Even we've already have many scientific proofs, the ones who do not see, just don't see. All I'm saying is - the sensible way is to go read it yourself and decide with your own discernment. If it makes sense to you, keep it and use it; but if it doesn't jive with you, then leave it. It's almost comical when someone claims he's got all the experiences and he tells what you'd do. It just smells stank all over.

 

[Intezam]

Perhaps repetition helps? Sometimes it does.. Anyways..here is it:
[YOUTUBE]

 

[sbios]

Again, all opinions are just, opinions. all one hears :!:
[YOUTUBE]

CToThis

 

[Intezam]

Again, all opinions are just, opinions. all one hears :!:
[YOUTUBE]

CToThis

Why not touch this?

The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion draws all things else to support and agree with it. And though there be a greater number and weight of instances to be found on the other side, yet these it either neglects and despises, or else by some distinction sets aside and rejects. —Francis Bacon

 

[SAP111]

Everyone has them but not necessarily 2. I have read and seen mine a few times. Also felt them quite a bit. I have also communicated to them through mediums and have been medically told things about myself that I didn't know.