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or alone..after being psychedelicized?..

I just feel like I cant put up with all the bullshit anymore..i dont want to participate in societies stupid games...but it's hard to find others that feel the same way out there in real life..

I saw some of my freinds today that I do really connect with, and when together we are like a family..but I barely ever see them..all these people are like comming form differnt corneres of the city..like all an hour or so away..It made me realize how much I really love all of these people and how special they are to me..I want to be around people like that all the time..they make me so happy.I wish society would just lighten up..it's like walking around in a damn pressure cooker. Even if I am really happy, most of the time it's hard to find people to share it with becasue people are always focussing on hateful and greedy things..so I just sit and try to be happy all by myself most days..but it starts to get old.

Everyone else around me that i deal with on a daily basis are just to uptight and stuck on stupid mundane things, especially when working..I cant ever express myself to these people..it's impossible. How do you explain how you REALLY feel to people who dont take psychedelics or have had similar expereinces?..it's like a monkey trying to explain to a dolphin what it's like to climb a tree.. I just feel so disconected from people around me because I feel like I have to play the stupid game to be accepted..I feel like a lonly heretic alot of the time..moreso today though..

Even with girls..every time I have a girlfriend it's like I am struggling to get them to really understand..they never really see me besides a few exceptions..

Does anyone else out there feel like this? I hate it becasue I just want to run around and hug everyone and tell them to loosen the fuck up..to get with it..to wake up..

people always seem to have to look so hard for a reason to be happy, a reason to celebrate..they dont see what is already all around them..how speical this all already is, how perfect we really have it, how sacred it is to just be here..instead they ignore the real things in life in search of some american dream that doesn't even exist..trying to find some thing to define themselves and legitamize there very being for only a minute until they start chasing the next illusion..fretting over every small detail and completely blind to the beauty of the whole picture..it's really starting to get old.

 
This is why I want to create a farm where peaceful people can live.

You'd have to work in the fields picking fruit and such but most other needs would be taken on by the group as a whole.

I never understand why people work for somebody else who then pays them money which they use to buy what they need when they could just work together and grow their own food and provide for their own needs...
 
fractal enchantment said:
people always seem to have to look so hard for a reason to be happy, a reason to celebrate..they dont see what is already all around them..how speical this all already is, how perfect we really have it, how sacred it is to just be here..
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While this is true it is so... yesterday.

I guess that's my witty way of saying "I hear you bro!"

Life recently does seem like a struggle to stay happy. Though it's easy in the short term. All it takes is for someone who meets my eyes with a smile, just working in a shop or whatever to break a days bad mood for myself. But it won't stop me feeling glum the next day.

Ever since being very young I've always moved around a lot and never stayed all that local to the people I really love. Then I spend most of my life thinking about them and trying to get back to them. Then in the mean time they're al doing their own thing and progressing while I just stew in my own juices. Then when I see them, they all seem to have changed. Or at leat not recognised the significant changes in myself enough to empathise. Then it's this attitude that keeps me wondering is it them or me? Then it seems that bettering ones self is for the best part self loathing Oh, how easy it would be if the next person would understand.

I often wonder if the love I've opened my eyes to is a curse. Tough skin would be so nice once in a while you know? But then again there's a little beauty here and there in this fragility in that the bitterness of being human can taste so good in its desperation.

Here's to the days when monkeys can swim in formation :)
 
I'm in the same situation. This plea sounds rhetorical like we're beating a dead horse or the fossil of a dead horse but it is for this reason that people of the same mind form churches. I wish there was a Santo Daime or Sacred Toad congregation around my town. I would be there for sure...for fellowship, and real connection. Personally, it's extremely hard for me to connect and stay connected to tortured cogs who want nothing but the daily grind in this soulless society.
 
Yeah this stuff has been said many times before..but it's just getting old even being in it anymore...if people want to be drones I cant change that..but I dont want to live in the stupid wolrd they create either..everyone talks about it(it's even trendy these days to act all anti-material)..yet the same old shit is still going on..I feel like now is the time to do something

I want change so bad..it wouldnt take that much to make this place a working paradise..right now it just seems like an ugly shithole, not life itself but the paradigm we are locked into..I hate it..I want to smash it to pieces..Im so sick and tired of all the ingnorance..I try to talk to people about this stuff, about recycling, about human rights etc..all I get is treated like shit from the same people..they act like I should mind my own business while they throw garbage all over the place polluting the planet for everyone else, supporting companies that support child slave labour..all these people think that they are somehow so pure and innocent becasue they live in america..the land of the free.. People are greedy, they dont care one bit about how the useless crap they buy at walmart, desperatily trying to numb the psychological sickness helps to support child run slave sweat shops and reinforces unfair trade around the globe..you cannot teach anything to people though, they need to see it for themselves..

I wont stop telling people..it is my business and everyone elses as well becasue we all have to live here on this planet and a huge portion of people are fucking it up for everyone else..

I come out of the water with oil from spills all over my skimboard, cigarette buts littering the once clean sandy beach, to hike back up to the highway breathing discusting exhaust fumes and factory-polluted air while they simutanuousily chop down parts of the rainforest-bog(or whats left of it) that contain the aquafers that are the "lungs of vancouer"..passing by on my way the gross cancer that is the industrial area destroying the river, pumping toxins into the air..to get back into town and look at endless strips of consumeristic paradise..all the soccer moms running to the malls, loading up the minivans with as much junk as they can fit...all the while parading around in trendy yoga cloths sipping chai tea lattes while trying to pass themselves off as "buddhists"(also another trendy thing)..

Maybe I just need to get out of the city:?
 
Getting out of the city definitely helps. LMAO at the Chai tea-sipping SUV soccer moms in trendy yoga clothes! I see so much of that down here in southern California it's ridiculous. Yoga places are popping up in every business district like a Starbucks or taco shop. If Yoga/Tai Chi practitioners were genuine around here the art would be free and practiced en masse in public like in China, but no, Americans have to capitalize, capitalize, capitalize.:roll: Inflation will burst this countries commercial bubble soon enough no worries. We're already in a recession which is nothing to take lightly in a consumer driven economy which the world depends on.

I know what you mean about Walmart. I helped run a Fair Trade shop in a touristy area of town for a year until we had to close shop because of the recession. People look at price above all else for purchases, and Fair Trade products(and Organic food for that matter) tend to be expensive. So they go to Walmart; even I go to Walmart. I simply can't afford to splurge price-wise on everyday necessities. The dollar is at fault completely. It has only a small fraction of the buying power that it had decades ago because of our governments perpetuation of inflation i.e. pumping paper debt by the trillions without hard backing into circulation. My grandma made 75 cents/hour as a 'Rosy the Riveter' during WW2. With 75 cents/hour she could pay rent, buy food, clothing etc. That was a living wage back then, and it shows how much the value of our currency has deteriorated. This situation will get far worse before society gets better.

I used to live in Vancouver, Washington. I know what you mean, the destruction of nature up there is horrible. I used to fish for Salmon on the Columbia River. Good times. I maintain a hope that more and more people will wake up, and protect, and preserve what man is destroying at an incredible rate. No worries, nature always wins in the end no matter what. Even when man wipes himself off the face of this planet by the billions in war, the last sight we will see are giant mushrooms as tall as the sky cleansing mother earth of all disease.:)
 
Rowing in this same boat since early childhood... Can't really relate to others. But I don't blame society, I blame myself. I remember times when I just became a "love bomb", and with the power of that I could just disregard the whole bullshit others are believing. As a love bomb, I had tremendous empathy for others, because I was not fearing them anymore (more exactly: did not fear that I was wrong), so clearly I saw the reality of the situation. And standing firmly on my little rock of faith, I could shake the others, not violently, just a big smile at the appropriate moment could really cheer everything up around. Yes, that's what I believe: these are all people who lost it, can't connect any more, but once someone comes around who doesn't gather his/her energy from ego, but from some divine source - which cannot be depleted *important* - , giving becomes the norm and that individual becomes a channel for God's workforce, healing energies come through and he/she becomes ultra-sensitive to the needs of the moment so that he/she can help as required (not as he/she thinks it should be given, which is the malaise of all the ideology-based betterment movements). How joyous it would be, getting on the bus, and playing awakening "games" for the people there. The art of it would be to find the fine line, so that it doesn't become embarrassing (I find things like the guy with the megaphone already too much, I prefer invisible, indirect ways).
 
Fractal Enchantment

I feel disconnected from society more and more every day, the more i search within myself and discover the true nature of my mind the more i cant relate to regular people and join in with what they find fun and enjoy. Its really difficult at times, I think that this is why the governments and authorities work so hard to prevent entheogen and mind exploration as it disconnects you from the rat race and 8am to 5pm lifestyle.

So my plan is to do as much as i can every day to work towards a different more healthy lifestyle, which is for me to live off the grid, immerse myself in nature and to have a beautiful self sufficient way of life. That's all we can do is to put actions into our dreams very day. I find that this plan of action helps me the most with dealing with normal every day to day life. I hold my dream inside of me like an unkown treasure or secret that i keep safe and nurture within side of me every day.

Our society and system is built on the foundation of every man for himself, look after only yourself. We have really lost our connection with the earth and each other, it makes me really sad that we have lost one of our most sacred qualities as human beings and that is our ability to have compassion for one another.

I love Jack Johnson he really keeps it real, Thank you so much for the link.
Here is one of my favourite Jack Johnson songs: Jack Johnson


Much Compassion and Oneness :b
 
I feel the same way too, i know a lot of us do. Its hard to find people that really deep down give a shit, and truly love the planet in an understanding way. This whole go-green bandwagon makes me cringe, companies making more junk, slapping a "go green" logo on it, to sell more products. In the end they dont care, its all about selling as much crap as possible. Funny the yoga mom thing was mentioned also, yoga is so watered down and americanized into some exercise program now its ridiculous. When people think yoga, they think housewives doing stretches and listening to meditation music lol, not working with consciousness, deep meditations, chanting and spiritual practices.

Last weekend football was on, I was working on a painting in my basement, and when i came upstairs, something rang like a bell in my head. Heres these over paid grown men playing with a fucking ball! Meanwhile people are starving, dying of disease etc, but we're too busy with our games over here to care. Seriously if i had loads of money, id seriously try to help as many people as possible.
 
hey thanks for all th responces guys!..I was having a bad day but I think some mescaline fixed my head a bit..I just find it hard to be happy all the time trying to keep up with the damands of others/society..living in the city it's all about $$:(
 
Yeah I feel the same way. Often after LSA trips, I don't think there is any going back. But is it so bad? Perhaps it is a gift that we are no longer tied to society as we once were, useless drones with no real purpose. At least that is how i try to think of it.

My goal, when I graduate from college, is to move into the wilderness, and become a forest ranger of sorts, having both an entheogen garden, and garden for fruits and vegetables. Then I will be able to live in partial seclusion, away from all the bullshit.
 
Psychedelics never made me feel disconnected.

Sometimes watching the slow collapse of western civilization on my TV does make me feel that way, though.

Sometimes i feel like "What's everybody doing?", "don't these people know we don't NEED to exploid others and contribute to warfare and slavery?" or "don't they care?".

Fortunately i found out that i looked at it the wrong way. All those people do know and they also do care. They're just too scared to say it.
 
^yeah that is true..
What I meant is basically what you said..it's not that psychedelics made me feel disconnected..rather I think they made me WANT to be even more connected than society allows us to be..in a way that not even our words can fully convey..but trying to get other people to understand that is hard.
 
[quote='Coatl]This is why I want to create a farm where peaceful people can live.

You'd have to work in the fields picking fruit and such but most other needs would be taken on by the group as a whole.

I never understand why people work for somebody else who then pays them money which they use to buy what they need when they could just work together and grow their own food and provide for their own needs...
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Guyana calls:d
 
I've always felt disconnected from society, but maybe I've just excluded myself. I do keep strong bonds with my close friends, who are more like family to me. I'm just sick of this bull shit society that we have inherited. People worship the almighty dollar and forget what life is all about. Then when we reject this "great society" and "triumph of man" We are called ungrateful, crazy, and pipedreamers. We are made to be outcast because we think there is something better than being a wage slave. Well fuck that, I'm sick of it. There needs to be something better.

I got idea's brewing, I need to learn to program in HTML. Any suggestions?
 

this music can heal planet earth... i believe...
especialy if we make it ;)

fractal enchantment:
i realy love you.. i feel like you and me are the same person.. very often your post are in sync whit my life...

this time are hard... i dont believe in astrology.. but there is an explication for this feelings... is an opossition of satur whith uranus... it is a big event in astrology.. and explain some things for "astrology believers"..
but.. is a intense time for me.. disconnection all the time.. bad feelings... old things happenin again.... i don't know why... i try all for feel better but always i fail... is like a proof of the cosmos..
joy and peace!!
 
polytrip said:
Psychedelics never made me feel disconnected.

Sometimes watching the slow collapse of western civilization on my TV does make me feel that way, though.

Sometimes i feel like "What's everybody doing?", "don't these people know we don't NEED to exploid others and contribute to warfare and slavery?" or "don't they care?".

Fortunately i found out that i looked at it the wrong way. All those people do know and they also do care. They're just too scared to say it.
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I think that entheogens disconnect you from all the negativity and lack of compassion and community that we have in our society. I would say that they open our eyes to what is really going on and they create more sensitivity and understanding. So I think I would rather look at it as entheogens reconnect us to our true nature as human beings, but i definitely feel disconnected from the mind set of general society with all the war and hatred and the destruction of the environment and all the suffering that animals and people experience on a every day to day basis.

I would have to say that people are greatly desensitized these days from their own choices that they make in their lives and i don't think its a fact that they are to scared i think its just easier for them to choose to be ignorant sadly. Human life is no longer precious, as a matter of fact no life is treasured anymore, I am definitely disconnected from that perspective of society. I have always been a very sensitive person and i think that entheogens magnify the sensitivity that i have in me, compassion and love for all sentient beings grows more and more inside of me everyday.

I love the Nexus, all of you are amazing and special people and i am honored to have found the nexus and to now be apart of a community that i can finally see eye to eye with.


Much Compassion and Love Always. :b
 
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