Do you experience telepathy. Voices inside. I want to know

[Soloist]

I've had quite a few experiences of telepathy while in an unmodified state of consciousness. Often, trees have been mediators for this phenomenon. One example, for three days I kept hearing the word "Sparassis" in my mind and a sort of pull in my solar plexus region. Until I finally could not resist any longer and let the pull guide me out of my home. I basically made a bee-line for nearly a mile through the countryside and came to a group of pine trees. At the base of the first tree was a large, overripe cauliflower fungus - Sparassis crispa - gloriously decorated atop with a fox turd! If only I had responded on the first day... But I was not to be disappointed, for a few more trees down the line there was a new, fresh fungus just the right size for me and a few friends to enjoy for supper that evening.

Another time, I received verbal directions referenced from an oak tree some 100 yards off which guided me to a splendid patch of liberty caps. The field seemed to be devoid of the little fellows I was seeking so I just tuned out and then the voice spoke:
"Walk towards that oak tree, 75 paces, then look down to the left."
On following these directions I was delighted to find a motherlode of several hundred of nature's finest shrooms, making my hunt worthwhile.

I have to say that I got the chills when I read this…I too have had direct telepathic communication from trees.

To preface, for a few years I was a Paranormal investigator. I’ve had my fair share of inexplainable experiences..
“thoughts in my head that aren’t mine“ are nothing new.
This, was unexpected however.

I was foraging incense ingredients for the upcoming dark moon. This particular day -Bay Berry, Sweet Fern, and American Witch Hazel were my main queries.
In this land of red oaks and pitch pines I came upon a section of trail flanked by Witch Hazel, to my delight.

…I’ve always been a conscientious forager, a leaf here, a leaf there, taking the second best as much as possible. If you didn’t see me in the act, you’d never know I was there…

I set about my task, slowly working my way through the stand.

It wasn’t enough.

Out of nowhere..
“IGNORANT HUMAN!”
…Boomed through my mental space.

I stopped dead in my tracks staring wide eyed at the trees before me.

A few confused moments passed by before I realized that …
Even though my approach was one of care, I never took the time to be concerned with what the tree itself was willing to give up. Or even if it was a willing participant.

Telepathically, I addressed the stand. Apologizing deeply for being careless. Explaining that, with such a different type of consciousness, it was hard sometimes for us monkey brained humans to be aware of other forms sentients. Sometimes even for those of us who are more aware. I assured them that I truly was working hard to change that.

I stood there, not sure what to expect.
Silence.

I got the feeling they were taken aback that I had even responded…that somehow I intercepted something that wasn’t meant for me.

I made them a promise to return soon and make amends. I’ve read somewhere that if you offend the land, best to give the spirits a good long time before you return.
It’s been over a year and a half and I feel the time is nearing.

Now, directly because of this incident, I always take the time to ask the spirit of whatever plant I intend to harvest if they are willing and how much is okay for me to take.
Whatever I feel in response is the course I take.

 

[roninsina]

I noticed OP hasn’t been around for many months but I appreciate the candor of everyone else in the thread. I spent some time debating whether I wanted to participate and have decided to do so in a somewhat limited manner.

During the second half of the 1990’s I was in what I would currently prefer to refer to as a period of deep psychosis. I heard all manners of voices from deceased loved ones, ethereal beings of a multitude of natures, various alien races and their telepathic AI, the voices of many individual humans both famous and everyday people, various plants and animals, and could continue enumerating my various telepathic contacts for some time, as this was a multi-year period.

Not sure how relevant my experiences are to the specifics of this thread, but just wanted to let you all know that I know how it feels. Not calling you all psychotics, just need to think of myself that way during that period until I have fewer responsibilities that I hold sacred.

 

[downwardsfromzero]

Not sure how relevant my experiences are to the specifics of this thread, but just wanted to let you all know that I know how it feels. Not calling you all psychotics, just need to think of myself that way during that period until I have fewer responsibilities that I hold sacred.

My experiences with telepathy have never been in the form of auditory hallucinations, rather they come as an emotional shift that then results in the decoding of information via a kind of visionary state. There's a certain state of mind, a modulation of state of consciousness into a light trance, where the experience of telepathy seems more likely to happen.

Of course, when I try to explain any of this to someone IRL, then they tend to think I'm crazy. There is a certain risk in allowing one's actions to be guided by a voice in one's head, and presumably also by some kind of emotionally-derived inner vision, but in the end I don't actually see how that differs from a large portion of human history.

 

[Soloist]

I noticed OP hasn’t been around for many months but I appreciate the candor of everyone else in the thread. I spent some time debating whether I wanted to participate and have decided to do so in a somewhat limited manner.

During the second half of the 1990’s I was in what I would currently prefer to refer to as a period of deep psychosis. I heard all manners of voices from deceased loved ones, ethereal beings of a multitude of natures, various alien races and their telepathic AI, the voices of many individual humans both famous and everyday people, various plants and animals, and could continue enumerating my various telepathic contacts for some time, as this was a multi-year period.

I appreciate you deciding to tell part of your experiences.

…There's a certain state of mind, a modulation of state of consciousness into a light trance, where the experience of telepathy seems more likely to happen

I agree. Very light cannabis use tends to put me more in a state to receive telepathic communication from plants. I feel the way in which I use it combined with the nature of cannabis itself, helps greatly to tune me in to the “plant mind” .
Though this is not always the case.
As in the instances above when I ask for permission to harvest. I am not always partaking.

 

[roninsina]

Yes DFZ and Soloist, it’s the same for me. On a certain level, I know this is a facility that we can train ourselves to access. This is information that I’m not intelligent enough to process consciously, but I may be able to access through simulations. The auditory hallucinations are what my super conscious mind thinks someone/something might say. Not unlike devices such as the I Ching or Tarot cards.

Unfortunately, if you’re pretty good at this and other folks que into your perceptions it can start amplifying the effects. I really was perceiving a huge amount of information that wouldn’t normally be consciously available to me, but it did result in some severe mania and psychosis.

I did eventually learn how to shut it off and would like to explore in a more controlled manor some day, but wouldn’t take the chance while still raising some totally awesome kids.

Thank you very much for making me feel comfortable talking about this.

 

[Tomtegubbe]

There is a certain risk in allowing one's actions to be guided by a voice in one's head, and presumably also by some kind of emotionally-derived inner vision, but in the end I don't actually see how that differs from a large portion of human history.

I believe the way of the shaman differs from delusional thinking in that you are willing to hone your intuition, not only listen to your inner feelings but also be critical about them, so you learn to distinguish what is worthwhile and what is not.

Intuition is very powerful and important tool, but can also mislead you if you don't work it.

 

[Soloist]

…Unfortunately, if you’re pretty good at this and other folks que into your perceptions it can start amplifying the effects. I really was perceiving a huge amount of information that wouldn’t normally be consciously available to me, but it did result in some severe mania and psychosis.

I did eventually learn how to shut it off and would like to explore in a more controlled manor some day, but wouldn’t take the chance while still raising some totally awesome kids.

Thank you very much for making me feel comfortable talking about this.

We’re you able to take away any positives from the experiences?

For me, being an empath, learning how to shut it off and shut people out when I realized just how much damage I was taking (And then passing on to my family as well) was a very hard and long lesson to learn. I feel you.

We all have our path, some times are darker then others…

I read a post here not that long ago, I can’t remember what it was, but somebody said, to the effect

“Most of us on this site aren’t understood in real life”
..that’s why we are all here isn’t it?

I believe the way of the shaman differs from delusional thinking in that you are willing to hone your intuition, not only listen to your inner feelings but also be critical about them, so you learn to distinguish what is worthwhile and what is not.

Intuition is very powerful and important tool, but can also mislead you if you don't work it.

This makes sense to me. I question myself constantly haha

 

[roninsina]

Were you able to take away any positives from the experiences?

I would say that the experience itself leaned more to the positive. After all, mania is something I would associate with positive feelings - just too positive. There were a number of devices I used in order to keep it all in check, and that knowledge has persisted with me on a conscious level, but the overall day to day was too intense for me to maintain normal social interactions in a way that made me feel grounded in my own identity. It was absolutely overwhelming, but I truly enjoyed the experience, just not enough to lose my connections to the mundane world.

I think I got reacquainted with a notion I had become fond of in my teens; that we’re here to experience what it is to be a human and anything beyond that is missing the whole point of occupying these bodies in the first place.

I feel like all this stuff is still available to me should I choose to move back in that direction, but it is no small task to talk yourself out of being coo coo for coco puffs, and I have a family to connect with.

Thank you again for making this available to talk about. The level of associated stigma doesn’t normally make this something I would bother examining in a way that required me to put it into words.

 

[Seeingisbelieving]

I'm curious. Did the voices quiet down after a short while and were you using psychedelics during this time? I had a few psychotic episodes very similar to yours last year. I continued psychedelic use (microdosing psilocybin once per week. one macrodose every couple months and vaped dmt every two weeks until present) but started seeing a therapist every two weeks. It has been a whole entire year since I experienced any psychotic psy phenomenon. I think it is interesting that psychedelics seem to help facilitate psychotic experiences when certain conditions are met.

The link between these experiences with creativity and genius is also puzzling. The experiences are so imaginative and grandeur most of the time they should be written into books. Are you a creative person roninsina?

 

[roninsina]

I'm curious. Did the voices quiet down after a short while and were you using psychedelics during this time? I had a few psychotic episodes very similar to yours last year. I continued psychedelic use (microdosing psilocybin once per week. one macrodose every couple months and vaped dmt every two weeks until present) but started seeing a therapist every two weeks. It has been a whole entire year since I experienced any psychotic psy phenomenon. I think it is interesting that psychedelics seem to help facilitate psychotic experiences when certain conditions are met.

The link between these experiences with creativity and genius is also puzzling. The experiences are so imaginative and grandeur most of the time they should be written into books. Are you a creative person roninsina?

There were peaks and troughs in the experience over the course of about five years, but there was never really a day where it completely subsided throughout most of that time. I couldn’t have imagined aggravating my situation with anything psychoactive, not even alcohol for the last few years of it. I wouldn’t even have dared seeking professional help as I didn’t feel I was a danger to myself or others, but I wasn’t willing to risk that a mental health professional would have agreed with that. I found one of my best defenses was to always attempt to cobble together an empirical explanation for everything. Eventually it all started to fade into background noise, but not without all the mindful intent I could muster. That is when I was serendipitously directed to an ayahuascero while traveling - I’d never even heard of ayahuasca before. Whether directly attributable to him or not, that is when the psychotic period ended.

I think folks who are a bit less intelligent or creative have these experiences too, it’s just a lot easier to tear their arguments apart and see through their delusions. But to directly answer your question, I would consider myself somewhat creative and agree that most of this would make nice fodder for a modest writing career/hobby. I hope so, anyway.

Edit: There was a period of about eight months in the middle of all of this where I traveled and lived out of a backpack on very modest means. I spent about half that time alone and half with groups like Earth First and The Rainbow Family. I had virtually no symptoms or they were manageable and not at all distressing during this time.

 

[fathomlessness]

On the face of it, I believes there are ways in which voices inside ones head can be useful, and even wholesomly connecting and unifying in a larger and more abstract sense of being..

but that is LONG after a trusting relationship with the spirit or other modes of ethereal consciousness (ones own or of another) is established.

Otherwise this can and will pose problems of sanity, especially to people who hold sanity to be such a crucial part of their lives (lawyers, teachers, doctors, engineers, physicists, politicians, etc).

It can also propose the constant awareness of the issue of self-identity and conscousnessness, which can make every day tasks very difficult to engage in. I.E. having disruptive thoughts during very focused times of pure being like during sex, social conversation, physical tasks that require skill etc.

 

[roninsina]

I think it is interesting that psychedelics seem to help facilitate psychotic experiences when certain conditions are met.

I think this is a mechanism of cognitive dissonance. Psychedelics are said to suppress the default mode network and cause us to pay attention to things we’ve maybe spent decades trying to ingnore. Confronted with so many disturbing decisions about how we are to proceed when confronted with our traumas, the mind gives us the option to look at something more compelling; “look at your shiny new ability “ or “there are events you must urgently participate in that make the previous events of your life insignificant in comparison “, etc. This is something that has been known to plague those who get to deep states of meditation as well.

Anyway, I neglected to congratulate you on your year away from Crazytown. I hope those magic molecules give you a permanent title to your new real estate.