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Analog equipment has more dimension to it.

I mostly use digital equipment because I use a digital synthesizer most of the time and because that's what gets the job done fast and there are lots of options in that world, but analog has a richer sound. This is because the sound waves recorded on an analog system don't have a rigid step from one point to the next. With the digital sound available on a normal 16-bit audio CD, there are only 65536 different values a wave can have from minimum to maximum. My ears can here this limitation. It makes the sound thin and gives it that “digital sound” some people complain about. With analog there’s an almost infinite amount of different values from minimum to maximum, not a fixed amount of options. This is what makes analog sound so “warm” and “natural”. When listening to analog music, the ears are hearing something that mimics a real sound wave with smooth movement from one point to the next. With digital music, the ears are hearing rigid movements from one point to the next.

A digital jump in a wave would be like this if moving up just 3 points over a short period of time:

0
0
0
1
1
1
2
2
2
3

The same jump in analog would be more like this:

0.000000000000000000000
0.000099812748289390005
0.012918023563248573489
1.009288543244586937205
1.304928379300487256437
1.832985029395748960483
2.001029810504888574345
2.339280590384834378444
2.789392890044543098509
3.000000000000000000000

Because the shift from 0-3 is smoother with analog, it has a warmer sound.
 
Maybe a bit off topic, but i don't like the sound of MP3 files. With many types of music it doesn't realy matter that much, but the more acoustic sounds there are recorded, the more MP3 starts to lack depth.
 
69ron said:
Analog equipment has more dimension to it.

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Especially with vinyl! It's as if the vinyl is playing the stylus like an instrument. The fact that you can actually hear the music straight from the stylus, and that the electronics merely amplify the sound illustrates this quality quite clearly. Tape is a bit different but not far off in terms of sound warmth and depth, though with a very "material" element of distortion. If I had the budget for it, I'd probably master everything on reel-to-reel (and if sony weren't such pigs, on minidisc as my digital master) and then release on cassettes and vinyl.

I value mp3's merely as an expedient facet of information archiving and distribution, but as I said previously, as supplementary to analog. I have a strong disgust with cd's and dvd's and find it unfortunate that I've spent so much money on them, but there was a time when that was just about the only option available.
 
did you guys ever made a double blind test to see if you could really notice the difference? I didnt, so I cant say.. but I guess its quite possible I would even not notice the difference between a 320kbps mp3 and some vinyl... I can see why there is the difference, ron's explanation was quite good, but still dont know if in practice, 99% of people would notice anything if they really tested in an unbiased way.
 
endlessness said:
did you guys ever made a double blind test to see if you could really notice the difference? I didnt, so I cant say.. but I guess its quite possible I would even not notice the difference between a 320kbps mp3 and some vinyl... I can see why there is the difference, ron's explanation was quite good, but still dont know if in practice, 99% of people would notice anything if they really tested in an unbiased way.

Haha in my irc group and my former place of posting at yahooka, boy did I get into some arguments about this.

I would rant and rave about how people who needed lossless files(flac, wav) were being silly nerds and this and that and I swore up and down in a blind test you couldnt tell.

Now that ive compared them with some of my favorite music, I can say with my 5.1 surround that yes, there is infact a difference, even with heavier music. Not real noticeable but if you REALLY love the song, youll appreciate the added depth, mp3 does now sound a bit muffled.

As much as I HATE being wrong, I was on this, I am now a .flac fan, but dont think ill be converting my library anytime soon.
 
It depends a lot on the quality of the recorded music. With classical music you can very clearly hear the difference because it's acoustic and often has multiple instruments playing at the same time. One of the data-compression tricks of MP3 is to filter out 'undetectable' sounds. But the character of sound in general and harmony in peticular is, that what you hear is the addition of all frequencies.
With synthesizer music the difference is smaller, ofcourse.
 
hey traveler, I listened to those tracks! nice stuff, reminds me a bit of ozric tentacles

btw, guys, please check this dude playing the acoustic guitar out:



and all his other stuff also, sounds like he def has some psychedelic side, which is not so easy to find in acoustic guitars. Amazing stuff!
 
Speaking of Rusty Strings I still cry allmost evewry time I hear that song!!! For those in the Dark G.D. Stella Blue I also play AROUND My semi new Heritage & an old analog Fender J.A.M. Very warm & fuzzy!! as to Flak Vs.WAv Vs Mp3 my burnt ears cant see much diff. too many loud shows!!! nqthing like live music for any PSYCEDELIC though! Still got board tapes MAXELL of course from all eras & they sound grateful!!! Drop DEAD brothers& Sisters PEACE OUT!!
 
Speaking of Rusty Strings I still cry allmost evewry time I hear that song!!! For those in the Dark G.D. Stella Blue I also play AROUND My semi new Heritage & an old analog Fender J.A.M. Very warm & fuzzy!! as to Flak Vs.WAv Vs Mp3 my burnt ears cant see much diff. too many loud shows!!! nqthing like live music for any PSYCEDELIC though! Still got board tapes MAXELL of course from all eras & they sound grateful!!! Drop DEAD brothers& Sisters PEACE OUT!!
 
Tried so many PS music SW, including Fruity loops - founded musical project ,Hyperspace travelling sound system´ there. And guess what, there was track called DMT performing the DMT experience by smartelectronix.com!
 
i can do a bit of throat singing..if you just keep practicing you will find all sorts of interesting sounds that you didnt ever think you could make..its very powerful when you get the air vibrating around you..you can feel it in every level of yourself..its quite something when combined with our favorite space vehicle..

i believe that when you hit some harmonic resonance..that harmonic tone will sound out through all levels of reality..

plus i like to write little songs on my computer..not great at it..also there is a SWEET 'game' for the nintendo DS..its called KORG DS-10 Synthesizer..its amazingly robust..its worth getting a DS just for this program..you can write electronic music anywhere you go..create just about any sound you can imagine..plus the KAOSS pads which use any scale you can think of..plus in any key..and then when you get back home..all you have to do is plug into the headphone jack and record it onto your computer..and then modify it from there if you have more specialized tools that you like to use..

i could go on and on about this program..if you check out an actual KORG KAOSS pad..that is hand held and portable it can cost a few hundred dollars..plus it doesnt have screens to show you all sorts of information..but the DS is something like 120 bucks..and the game cant be over 40...

i also like playing guitar and used to play sax..but havent played in awhile...im trying to learn the flute and other small wind instruments..i like mini instruments..because you can take them anywhere..probably why i like KORG so much..and sometimes i like playing the didge..but my cat hates low notes like that..i think she thinks im pissed off..but its a good way of getting rid of her...while higher notes she actually comes to me..she only comes if the note kinda does that ringy thing in your ear..its quite something to show people...its like 'hey! want to see me call my crazy ass cat...watch out she bites even when she looks like she wants to cuddle..' and then i blow this kick ass sculpted whistle..i wish i could remember what its called..but its got aya designs all over it..and its about the size of a coconut...but its got this extremely high pitch to it..

i also like whistles and such...



ive had this great idea in the past couple of days...i want to create a music box that is hooked up to a little solar panel..and then put it in a completely seal container..with the solar panel on top..and go attach it permanently to a big rock..and whenever the sun comes out..this little music box will start turning out some sweet music..you could make the drum for the song as big as you wanted...so you could make this extremely long song play out..and i also was thinking of a way to be able to put hundreds of songs into multiple drums and having it on some sort of time mechanism so that every day at a certain time a different song would play..and it would just go on and on until it finally broke
 
This would be a start:
Music-Box-Set-.jpg


These things are great, but I haven't written anything on mine in a while.
 
I been studying 5 string banjo a year or so. No way I could play trippin' I have to concentrate to much! :?
 
Yep. Six string electric and the Didgeridoo (obviously from my avatar)! :D

Never played either in hyperspace, but certainly many times on shroomies and Lysergic, among other things. LS seems take me the deepest into my music though.

Oh, and I really enjoy playing the Didg before blasting off to Hyperspace. It's very meditative.

Peace
-idt
 
amor_fati said:
This would be a start:
Music-Box-Set-.jpg


These things are great, but I haven't written anything on mine in a while.

is this only for writting music tabs in a paper, or?

because I've seen this kind of thing as a freeware software, where one can very easily write down the tabs and play it back.



btw, I continue slowly slowly improving my guitar playing... I recommend anybody who DOESNT play an instrument, to try for a couple of months.. I thought I had absolutely 0 skills for it, but then its great to see that I do evolve and start playing stuff that before was faaaar off, and now its slowly becoming possible. All that takes is practice. If I had a teacher would for sure go faster, but youtube, tabs and chords on the internet and my own memory of songs I like, its been no problem to learn by myself.

:)
 
Play guitar, bass, piano, harmonium, throat sing and write electronic music. I have a different style of playing guitar than most have heard. My cam is broke otherwise I would be youtubing some of my stuff, sometime... But LSD was what broke me through into playing what I do now. I had played for a few years before that but when I played on acid one night my fingers blew up on the fret board and my musical style was born! And ever since it has been an upward curve of getting better and better and being able to translate my perceptions and feelings through my music.

Music is a rewarding experience and I think that everyone should play an instrument of some sort, it is a quite wonderful. It's also quite interesting to hear of all the people here who's music has developed with the use of various entheogens.

I just wrote a new track, Pepper Picker, that is up on my myspace: 111 | Listen and Stream Free Music, Albums, New Releases, Photos, Videos

I use FL Studio 8, Pro Tools, Cubase and Logic Pro for most of my tunes.

Great to see all the artists and Audio Engineers on the site!
 
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