Do you think governments study DMT?

[elphologist1]

I'm thinking specifically the US government, but any nation's government for that matter (UK, China, Russia, etc.). Seems to me they would, given the publicly available descriptions of possible alien contacts cited in books such as Strassman's DMT The Spirit Molecule, etc. Remember, the US government has done research on such unconventional topics as clairvoyant spying. And of course, they widely (and secretly) researched LSD in the 1950s and 1960s in such projects as MK-Ultra. I'm guessing that governments are either actively researching DMT now, or if they are not, its just because they have researched it already and possibly concluded it was not worth further study for whatever reason. Your thoughts?

 

[universecannon]

yes

 

[jamie]

of course they do. You think these people are stupid enough to just look the other way when it comes to something like this?

 

[psychedelic_cloud]

Just look at the Nexus in general..
the fact that so many people find the ingestion of one certain substance "life-changing" or "defying just about everything we've come to know in the progression of our existence" is in my opinion a good enough reason for anyone--governments included--to study DMT.

Peace,
psychedelic_cloud

 

[clouds]

I don't think so. I know so.

 

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Remote viewing - Spirituality & Mysticism - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

 

[Eliyahu]

elphologist1-

I will reluctantly state that I had a single MIB encounter. I believe they "paid me a visit" as a direct result of my psychedelic travels. I'm not trying to tell scary stories or make anyone here paranoid or anything but I would just like to honestly relate what I have experienced.

The thing about an MIB experience is that it is even more unbelievable than a DMT experience and in some ways more frightening. I usually don't tell people about it I only write about it here because well it's easier to write about with a degree of anonymity.

I'm pretty hesitant to disclose the details of that encounter however as much as I would like to do so. But that experience to me was very real indeed and left me with little doubt of the interest of some type of agency.


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I believe they are in fact interested in the DMT claims of inter-dimensional beings but if my intuitive speculation is correct then they have already made contact with the DMT E.T's many years ago and have failed to extract any worthwhile information.
.-(remember DMT has been around on the black market since the late 1960's at least)

In my wildly imagined scenario I believe that the reason they are not able to get technology from the DMT E.T.'s is because the E.T's refuse to corporate with our world leaders..

My guess is they are not too eager to help us build weapons, mining equipment or other such things.....

My own personal DMT experiences have inspired me to subscribe to a particular theory known as the Kardashev scale...I personally believe it to be is very accurate in describing the actual nature of the universe or muti-verse as it may be.

It basically states that as far as technological advancement goes, there are four main types of civilizations in the universe.

We here on earth would be a type 0(zero) civilization...where as the "DMT aliens" would be closer to a type 3...(some people speculate there could be a fourth level).

the difference between a type 0 and type 3 civilization would represent the same technological difference that exists between human beings and ants.

That one chill guy from the discovery channel:
Physicist Michio Kaku explains here:

 

[dreamer042]

The CIA focused on three potential applications for psychoactive drugs: "truth serums" that could be used during interrogation, drugs that could induce amnesia, and brainwashing techniques that could create what is often described as a "Manchurian Candidate" (after the popular 1959 novel). In fiction, a "Manchurian Candidate" is someone who has been brainwashed to carry out covert actions such as assassinations or sabotage against their will, without having the awareness that anything is amiss.

In pursuit of these goals, MKULTRA scientists investigated dozens of psychoactive agents, including psilocybin, bufotenin, scopolamine, DMT, amphetamines, barbiturates, cannabis, and cocaine. They particularly focused on LSD, funneling hundreds of thousands of dollars through covert channels into LSD studies at clinics and hospitals. Much of the basic research into LSD's pharmacology conducted in the 1950s was funded by either the military or the CIA.

Erowid War Vault : MKULTRA: Psychedelic Mind Control and Its Legacy

MKULTRA: Psychedelic Mind Control and Its Legacy, by Lux

www.erowid.org

 

[Sky Motion]

Yeah they do.

 

[a1pha]

I will reluctantly state that I had a single MIB encounter. I believe they "paid me a visit" as a direct result of my psychedelic travels.

I've always wanted to meet Will Smith! I'm surprised they didn't flashy-thing your memory! lol

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I'm guessing that governments are either actively researching DMT now, or if they are not, its just because they have researched it already and possibly concluded it was not worth further study for whatever reason. Your thoughts?

We have the 'government' to thank for much of the DMT research thus far. The US Government is, literally, the pioneer of modern psychedelic research.

I suggest the following:
Chemical Warfare: Secrets Almost Forgotten

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

I assume so.

They could be reading every single thread on this site and others. Topic starters just stop posting.

They don't want to be seen, just watching. Letting all of us do the work, then use gained knowledge to their benefit.

To monitor the alarming rate of minds awakening to the truth.

Who knows. They probably have equipment that can detect when a brain enters hyperspace. We could be creating massive distortions in our dimensions that stand out like a siren in the night. One toke and boom, "Roger that, we have a lock on a traveller, currently and sector vx-23, currently at .427 the speed of light. Firewalling the universal mind now..."

The last trip I had was so fake feeling. I was like holy shit, this is so intense but fake as hell. Someone wants me to only go this far.

 

[dmthyperspace1997]

i strongly believe the U.S., Canada, and Europe study it... the probably test it on people to.. i know in Switzerland they still study LSD on people. and in Germany they test bromo LSD on people (its a non-psychedelic form of LSD that treats cluster headaches)

 

[isolated]

michio is awesome, and the only reason our gov besides the entity thing would be studying DMT is usingit to erase memory or types of mind control, ther is a tryptamine that already exist thats capable of wiping out short and long term memory about a week at a time, its capable of erasing your previous week, and the next 4-5 days afterwards, maybe DMT is the prototype for this type of memory destroying tryptamine, as the the new improved MK-ULTRA wich btw is real. i will try to find the trptamine im talking about.

 

[endlessness]

Please let's not turn this into a CT kind of thread. We all know mk ultra is real, but when we start talking about machines that detect when you enter hyperspace and telling people to stop posting threads, this is going too far.

Clouds, if you make such a claim, would you care to expand on it?

 

[brokin]

It must be studied in order to be banned.
I don't know about the government but the medical laboratory's should check it

 

[Felnik]

I,ve had this thought
More than once in hyperspace .

It feels to me that something this powerful would not be overlooked by the military or some secret government lab.

I had one experience where it felt like I was in some kind of hyperspace vehicle of some kind . This thing was made from information .

I kept returning to it numerous times.
It was Damn powerful but completely beyond my ability to make any rational sense of it.

I still think hyperspace may not be at all what it seems . It's possible it is in fact some kind of gateway to another realm and its loaded with all kinds of distracting
Stuff to actually throw us off to its true nature .

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

Please let's not turn this into a CT kind of thread. We all know mk ultra is real, but when we start talking about machines that detect when you enter hyperspace and telling people to stop posting threads, this is going too far.

Clouds, if you make such a claim, would you care to expand on it?

My bad. I meant some really good topics get started and then the topic starter just abandons the thread.
As far as the machine, I should have been more than what I thought was obvious by ending with a LOL, or put the word humor and parentheses. It's not star gate here.

 

[Eliyahu]

a1pha said:
"I've always wanted to meet Will Smith! I'm surprised they didn't flashy-thing your memory!"

:lol: --The Fresh Prince of Bel Air was not among them...also no familiar grin of Tommy Lee Jones...actually no grins at all....they were more straight faced like the "agents" from the matrix...very un-hospitable to put it lightly.(unfortunately, i'm pretty sure the only flashy memory erasers thingys they may have had were most likely of the "low tek" smith & wesson variety)

a1pha...I did not expect anyone to take me seriously but as you probably know from taking DMT... very intense paranormal experiences can be somewhat traumatic and when a person experiences something super traumatic then it's nice for that person to talk or write about it because that can alleviate some of the ptsd like symptoms associated with such an event....

So... I'm just trying to vent my paranormal baggage.... dig?

I remember the first MIB Movie came out shortly after my encounter with the real thing,,
which struck me as odd timing....

I personally believe that those MIB movies......much like certain cheap FOX network UFO documentaries have been made in order to make people who actually HAVE witnessed the real deal seem TOTALLY unbelievable instead of just a little unbelievable.....

So my sincere apologies to Endless as I am not definitely tying to fuel the fires of rampant conspiracy theory or anything but If this was a DMT Nexus court of law then I would testify on oath that I really did encounter the infamous Men In Black while I was NOT tripping. It happened also in broad daylight...in public...in an urban area, in front of dozens of citizens. Of course I did not have the presence of mind afterwards to try and gather up people who might have seen them and corroborate eye witness reports or anything.
8)

 

[tele]

It's possible it is in fact some kind of gateway to another realm and its loaded with all kinds of distracting
Stuff to actually throw us off to its true nature .

While it's possible I think already visiting another dimension is of true nature enough for my human brain. If it has something "of truer nature" in it, cool, but I'm satisfied.8) At least it's never the same journey twice.

 

[EzekielCain]

It's entirely probable that government research has/is being done, given the fact that MK Ultra was as real as the day is long. Also due to the documented interest of the US Government in Astral Projection and Remote Viewing.

NOT using DMT as a tool to facilitate these things is unthinkable.

Like a lot of other people here I've had a lot of experiences on a lot of various substance, especially psychedelics. DMT is far more "removing from self" than anything I've experienced before.

In answer to your question....

Hell YES I think it's being used in secret outlets and I think that things used in our every day life and military are a result of technology changing hands from one life form to another.