Does everyone dream?

[Cascadeimage]

Has there been anyone who never dreamed their whole life and was surprised to dream for the first time?

I think that definitely happens. I actually remember some reporting here that they never remembered a dream until after their first psychedelic or DMT experience. Things like dream herbs, meditation, and melatonin also seem to have an effect.

And just because you don't remember them doesn't mean you aren't dreaming. Even at times when I could have writen pages of dreams in a morning, I could still sense that there is even more that I wasn't able to bring back.

^^^^This.

I didn't dream very much at all until I was 22 or 23. Then my friend introduced me to the psychedelics. I didn't see a whole lot in my own psychedelic experiences initially. But after 2 or 3 times, I felt the urge to try it once more because I had a very, very vivid dream experience where a girl was sending orange energy to me. It felt like she was "unlocking" something. After the dream, I tried the psychedelic once more and BAM. It was a huge, mental experience like nothing I had ever had before.

This is why I'm a personal believer in the chakras. I don't expect many people to agree with me on this one because it's not very scientific. But it makes sense to me...and has ever since that experience. But regardless of that, one of my psychonaut buddies made an amazing metaphor to me once. Imagine a beach ball that's being pushed down into the water. Pressure builds up, and wants to launch the beach ball to the surface. The beach ball is you, and above the surface is consciousness. But yeah...you can definitely transition from barely dreaming at all to dreaming too much. It just takes time, and it depends on if that's what you really want.

 

[jarklor]

Because DMT isn't a lucid dream. Why do you need apples if you have oranges? You don't "need" anything. I salute your curiosity but put in a little more thought and effort man.

I've never even recalled a dream before so how should I know?

 

[jarklor]

Has there been anyone who never dreamed their whole life and was surprised to dream for the first time?

I think that definitely happens. I actually remember some reporting here that they never remembered a dream until after their first psychedelic or DMT experience. Things like dream herbs, meditation, and melatonin also seem to have an effect.

And just because you don't remember them doesn't mean you aren't dreaming. Even at times when I could have writen pages of dreams in a morning, I could still sense that there is even more that I wasn't able to bring back.

^^^^This.

I didn't dream very much at all until I was 22 or 23. Then my friend introduced me to the psychedelics. I didn't see a whole lot in my own psychedelic experiences initially. But after 2 or 3 times, I felt the urge to try it once more because I had a very, very vivid dream experience where a girl was sending orange energy to me. It felt like she was "unlocking" something. After the dream, I tried the psychedelic once more and BAM. It was a huge, mental experience like nothing I had ever had before.

This is why I'm a personal believer in the chakras. I don't expect many people to agree with me on this one because it's not very scientific. But it makes sense to me...and has ever since that experience. But regardless of that, one of my psychonaut buddies made an amazing metaphor to me once. Imagine a beach ball that's being pushed down into the water. Pressure builds up, and wants to launch the beach ball to the surface. The beach ball is you, and above the surface is consciousness. But yeah...you can definitely transition from barely dreaming at all to dreaming too much. It just takes time, and it depends on if that's what you really want.

Thanks. I'm goning to try buying some dreaming pills and someday try dmt. Did you use dmt for your first psychedelic experiences?

 

[Spiralout]

In my experience DMT has been nothing like dreaming. However I am not very skilled at dreaming and lucid dreaming in particular is very hard for me to achieve. However much of this is because I haven't put much energy into trying to lucid dream and remember my dreams. Lucid dreams are very much like regular dreams in my experience except they are much much clearer. However "regular" dreams can have degrees of cloudiness and lucidity . When I have used psychedelics more frequently in the past I seemed to have clearer and more frequent rememberings of dreams during those periods. Meditating, slowing down your lifestyle , eating healthy and getting exercise and living in the moment seem to increase your ability to dream. However DMT is not equivalent with dreaming in my experience.

I don't really understand what you mean when you say you want to be a "very spiritual person"... What exactly are you trying to gain? Anything? You can start in any way that you want but you have to know what you want or what you are trying to do first. Take one step at a time from there.

 

[jarklor]

In my experience DMT has been nothing like dreaming. However I am not very skilled at dreaming and lucid dreaming in particular is very hard for me to achieve. However much of this is because I haven't put much energy into trying to lucid dream and remember my dreams. Lucid dreams are very much like regular dreams in my experience except they are much much clearer. However "regular" dreams can have degrees of cloudiness and lucidity . When I have used psychedelics more frequently in the past I seemed to have clearer and more frequent rememberings of dreams during those periods. Meditating, slowing down your lifestyle , eating healthy and getting exercise and living in the moment seem to increase your ability to dream. However DMT is not equivalent with dreaming in my experience.

I don't really understand what you mean when you say you want to be a "very spiritual person"... What exactly are you trying to gain? Anything? You can start in any way that you want but you have to know what you want or what you are trying to do first. Take one step at a time from there.

Do you think If I tried hard I would remember my dreams? Or do you think I simply don't dream?

 

[Spiralout]

I think if you were more intent on remembering your dreams and maybe made some lifestyle changes it would help. Are you content with the moment in day to day life? Are you eating wholesome foods? Have dreaming be as important as anything else in your life and you should start to dream. "Dreaming pills" will only be a quick fix and anything you accomplish with them will be gone when you stop taking them unless you are already able to dream on your own.

 

[jarklor]

I think if you were more intent on remembering your dreams and maybe made some lifestyle changes it would help. Are you content with the moment in day to day life? Are you eating wholesome foods? Have dreaming be as important as anything else in your life and you should start to dream. "Dreaming pills" will only be a quick fix and anything you accomplish with them will be gone when you stop taking them unless you are already able to dream on your own.

What if I don't dream at all? What if I told you that everyone gets abducted by aliens when they fall asleep but they just can't remember it?

 

[Spiralout]

I honestly feel like your trolling. :!:

 

[jarklor]

I honestly feel like your trolling. :!:

I'm being serious. You think I'm lying that I never recalled a dream or that my example was silly?

 

[Spiralout]

I don't think your lying about not having recalled a dream but your certainly asking some silly questions.

"What if I told you that everyone gets abducted by aliens when they fall asleep but they just can't remember it? "

What does that mean?

 

[jarklor]

I don't think your lying about not having recalled a dream but your certainly asking some silly questions.

"What if I told you that everyone gets abducted by aliens when they fall asleep but they just can't remember it? "

What does that mean?

It's a fallacy question. For example, atheists say that beliving in the spagetti monster is as silly as beliving in god.

 

[Spiralout]

So your saying you don't believe other people dream? Or you don't believe you can dream? Maybe this is why you don't dream...

 

[jarklor]

So your saying you don't believe other people dream? Or you don't believe you can dream? Maybe this is why you don't dream...

So I guess I'll keep trying

 

[jarklor]

Holy crap I think I just dreamed.

It was really weird. My cousin and I were racing with wiii remotes. Literally using a remote to control the wii remote on the ground and the furniture. I don't want to get into detail though cuz I'm tired. I walked to tge edge of the room and tried to turn on the light switch and it didn't work. Then I woke up, but damn, I feel like I forgot the actual experience.

Crap, I created a new thread. Sorry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[1ce]

Idk what's going on here..

 

[jarklor]

Idk what's going on here..

What do you mean? I want this posted in "does everyone dream?"

 

[Cascadeimage]

I think if you were more intent on remembering your dreams and maybe made some lifestyle changes it would help. Are you content with the moment in day to day life? Are you eating wholesome foods? Have dreaming be as important as anything else in your life and you should start to dream. "Dreaming pills" will only be a quick fix and anything you accomplish with them will be gone when you stop taking them unless you are already able to dream on your own.

I like this line of thought. Living in the moment and staying healthy is always what the doctor ordered. It helps with meditation, as well.

And I used DXM as my first psychedelic...even though it's not the conventional psychedelic, and there are so many other better alternatives. Shrooms, for instance, which is similar in many ways.

Everything I learned in graduate school (I did neuroscience for a year but dropped out because of work and no thesis advisor) points to the idea that you make your own reality. So if dreaming matters to you, then you'll make it a priority in your life. Your brain will make adjustments to this priority, and you will eventually begin dreaming. However, that's not to say that all the above recommendations don't help. They do. But as Alan Watts said, "You are a function of what the whole universe is doing in the same way that a wave is a function of what the whole ocean is doing." So as you go through your day, you're "doing" the action of having dreams matter to you, just as you're posting in this forum and making it a topic for discussion. So whether you realize it or not, you're closer to it now than you perhaps ever were.

 

[spawn9076]

i never ever remembered my dreams for years. since smoking dmt i remember them again....