Earthwalker
Rising Star
I gave some bark to someone last week and i know its inner root bark but he begins to differ and this was the conversation ....
But I want to know is what he says about the sap fat gums correct , as I though inner bark was root bark with the dead outter tissue removed ....
Person no1
can you explain how inner root bark has so much gak/gum in it. It is not even close to a quality product if it was it would not have any gums/sap which is from outer bark there are reasons why you get inner bark . this is by far the worst confusa ive had and ive never had any problem before with gak/gum. if I knew it wasn't inner root bark I would have used a different process and would not have been a problem the whole lot is now like golden syrup not happy a complete waste of time
Person no2 ( me )
I'm sorry it didn't reach you're expectations , but I guess you can't please everyone ....
Also I'm not going to argue but it is 100% inner root bark and I think you're getting Hawaiian confusa to Taiwanese !
Person no1
I am not sure u understand the role of fats/gums in a trees bark I am very experienced in this field and would have defatted if I had outer bark. the role of the sap/fats/gum is to protect the inner bark which carries water/nutrient to the tree. the outer carries 0 water/nutrient and has the sap/gum to keep pests away also for a band aid when damaged and also a couple other roles such as keeping the inner water/nutrient at temp that the tree can process. You really should know your barks and inner bark does not require any acid, cleaning of gums just water and a strong base. I was suspect when first seen it and should have defatted but the reason ppl like inner is to save time & solvent and excess fumes which is the reason I only ever use inner bark. the yield /quality doesn't change between either product just process. I am not trying to have a go at you just educate you as the product is probably a superior outer bark I have been able to recover a small amount but would have lost at least 90% cleaning it up eg yield less than 1g which usual yield from 1kg is between 16 - 20 of pure clear glass and less than 5% evap of solvent
most people would never know the difference if they follow the a/b extraction methods on the net but if they work out how to extract without evap of huge amounts of solvent and use a certain solvent which results in perfect huge crystals every time. only reason I know is by a lack of napatha or sheltie when doing this years ago there is nothing on the internet I have found that backs what I am saying just trial and error learning [ used for other recrystalisation of something else though] you could figure it out if you think about growing crystals
But I want to know is what he says about the sap fat gums correct , as I though inner bark was root bark with the dead outter tissue removed ....
Person no1
can you explain how inner root bark has so much gak/gum in it. It is not even close to a quality product if it was it would not have any gums/sap which is from outer bark there are reasons why you get inner bark . this is by far the worst confusa ive had and ive never had any problem before with gak/gum. if I knew it wasn't inner root bark I would have used a different process and would not have been a problem the whole lot is now like golden syrup not happy a complete waste of time
Person no2 ( me )
I'm sorry it didn't reach you're expectations , but I guess you can't please everyone ....
Also I'm not going to argue but it is 100% inner root bark and I think you're getting Hawaiian confusa to Taiwanese !
Person no1
I am not sure u understand the role of fats/gums in a trees bark I am very experienced in this field and would have defatted if I had outer bark. the role of the sap/fats/gum is to protect the inner bark which carries water/nutrient to the tree. the outer carries 0 water/nutrient and has the sap/gum to keep pests away also for a band aid when damaged and also a couple other roles such as keeping the inner water/nutrient at temp that the tree can process. You really should know your barks and inner bark does not require any acid, cleaning of gums just water and a strong base. I was suspect when first seen it and should have defatted but the reason ppl like inner is to save time & solvent and excess fumes which is the reason I only ever use inner bark. the yield /quality doesn't change between either product just process. I am not trying to have a go at you just educate you as the product is probably a superior outer bark I have been able to recover a small amount but would have lost at least 90% cleaning it up eg yield less than 1g which usual yield from 1kg is between 16 - 20 of pure clear glass and less than 5% evap of solvent
most people would never know the difference if they follow the a/b extraction methods on the net but if they work out how to extract without evap of huge amounts of solvent and use a certain solvent which results in perfect huge crystals every time. only reason I know is by a lack of napatha or sheltie when doing this years ago there is nothing on the internet I have found that backs what I am saying just trial and error learning [ used for other recrystalisation of something else though] you could figure it out if you think about growing crystals
