maranello551
Rising Star
Well? Does it?
entheogenic-gnosis said:Well, they are not the same.
I think all the information that can be given on the topic has (in your last thread on the topic) and there's really not much anyone else can say. You may just have to bioassay them both and judge for yourself.
Chemically, yopo is generally 5-meo-DMT dominant, and generally cebil is 5-HO-DMT dominant.
-eg
maranello551 said:entheogenic-gnosis said:Well, they are not the same.
I think all the information that can be given on the topic has (in your last thread on the topic) and there's really not much anyone else can say. You may just have to bioassay them both and judge for yourself.
Chemically, yopo is generally 5-meo-DMT dominant, and generally cebil is 5-HO-DMT dominant.
-eg
My source has these (Listed from most to least expensive):
Cebil seeds
Yopo seeds
Powdered (with hull) Cebil seeds
Should I get some of each and just use the powdered for a bufo extraction?
I'm not sure the powdered can be used for snuff considering the shell hulls are in the powder......can anybody speak on this?
Well with yopo and cebil it is always a hit and miss, some vendors sell old almost inactive seeds or sell one for the other. Personally in the study of both seeds I have observed a lot of differences and similarities on the effects and duration. My rat finds that cebil tends to be a little bit more reliable in strength, but also tends to have more of a plain and linear effect and its accompanied by strong physical sensations (sometimes nice, sometimes not so much) more so than yopo. The observed psychic effects of cebil consist on tingling sensations (specially in the head area), intermittent blurred vision, rapid and chaotic CEV composed of light color lines (most of the times of a red pigment). The effects on the ego and perception of space and time are very mild. These more intense effects are felt 5 to 15 minutes after consumption, followed by a state that resembles a low dose of psilocybin, with a clear mindset for the next 45 minutes and a refreshed feeling for the rest of the day.maranello551 said:Well? Does it?
entheogenic-gnosis said:It it was myself personally, I would by a sample of both.
As far as buying "powdered" ethnobotanicals, I will never do this, it's far too easy for "saw dust" or other forms of "cut" to be slipped into the product without your knowledge, I'm not sure if there is evidence that this actually happens, but being a wary consumer means the possibility that it could occur means it's something to remain mindful of.
maranello551 said:entheogenic-gnosis said:It it was myself personally, I would by a sample of both.
As far as buying "powdered" ethnobotanicals, I will never do this, it's far too easy for "saw dust" or other forms of "cut" to be slipped into the product without your knowledge, I'm not sure if there is evidence that this actually happens, but being a wary consumer means the possibility that it could occur means it's something to remain mindful of.
What if I buy a sample of each type of whole seed,
and then
do a bufo extraction on both the powdered cebil as well as on a similar weight of whole cebil (accounting for the weight of the hulls after de-hulling)to compare yields......this way the potential crud would be left out, and if the bufor yields are comparable, I could at least use the far cheaper powdered cebil for extractions rather than snuff powder...