Dosing Acacia Goo

[divine_sage]

I've done tons of reading, and I'm about to start my first extract, following a food safe tek: D-Limonene and vinegar "full spectrum" DMT extraction

I have 500g of ACRB, which should contain anywhere from 1g to 7g of DMT depending on it's potency (.25% to 1.5%). It should create a full-spectrum extraction, resulting in goo.

How do I actually dose the goo? In the goo thread, they state that goo can be up to 92% DMT. I have a MG scale, and was planning on making changa with caapi leaves. Can I simply weigh out 50mg of the goo (say for a starting point) or will the goo be much heavier than that due to other compounds? In one thread I read of someone using a whole GRAM of goo for their changa, for example, which would be completely insane if it is in fact 92% DMT.

Thoughts on how to get started? I am okay with starting with a really small dose and working my way up to determine efficacy but it would be nice to start at a point where it will do something.

 

[IANS]

Take it from someone with over 50 encounters with ACRB. You never know what you are in for. Its that simple. So dont bother with such things, just load as much as you can without clogging ur smoking device, kick back and enjoy.

 

[Entheogenerator]

Take it from someone with over 50 encounters with ACRB. You never know what you are in for. Its that simple. So dont bother with such things, just load as much as you can without clogging ur smoking device, kick back and enjoy.

I would recommend the exact opposite of this. :!:

Trust me, you can't go wrong if you start with a small dose and work your way up. I have heard people say that the DMT/NMT "goo" that often results from extracting Acacia confusa root bark often consists of 50% DMT and 50% NMT, but this is not always the case. I'd say start with like 10mg, and go from there. If you experience absolutely no effects at all, wait 20-30 minutes and try 15mg. Proceed as such until you find a good dose.

For weighing your doses, making enhanced leaf is always a good option. Another option would be to take a razor blade, tare your scale with the razorblade on it, scrape up a glob of goop onto the razorblade and then reweigh it.

For the record, when people talk about making enhanced leaf/changa with a gram of DMT or a gram of ACRB goo, they are generally not planning on dosing it all at once.

 

[Tyler_Trismegistus]

Unfortunately both my encounters with ACRB have been failures :/ low yielding too and I smoked up to 100mg in a sitting with nothing but the nmt body rush and weird DMT like audio space. I miss my harmalas and mimosa

 

[IANS]

Think I'm saying regulate how much you smoke by how much you smoke and not by how much you pack. There is no math or science when it comes to the goo, atleast not for most of us. Worse thing is having to try-n-pack more at that moment when you want the special last hit.

 

[Sandgrease]

I just did two stb on acrb. The first one, I didn't let dry long enough and ended up with goo. The second batch I lrt dry for two days in a not so airtight container and ended up with waxy crystals that were then frozen.

I put the goo in ISO and infused it onto mint leaf for easier measuring. 100mg of goo ( probably like 50-75mg dmt, no clue really) onto 400mg mint leaf.

 

[Entheogenerator]

There is no math or science when it comes to the goo, atleast not for most of us.

Who exactly is "most of us"? Because my observations on this forum and elsewhere have been completely in contrast to this statement.

 

[IANS]

There is no math or science when it comes to the goo, atleast not for most of us.

Who exactly is "most of us"? Because my observations on this forum and elsewhere have been completely in contrast to this statement.

So ok how do you test it without just smoking it? :?

 

[Tyler_Trismegistus]

He's talking about weighing the dose. Weighing the doses for freebase DMT is essential. With Changa on the other hand, just pack a bowl and take your time getting to where you want to be. I highly recommend this ROA :thumb_up:

 

[divine_sage]

So now, I'm thinking I'll just weigh the entire goo result, and do a 1:1 with caapi leaf. Then just measure 20mg of enhanced leaf and go from there.

So far there's a good, solid orange color coming up at the top of the d-limonene, so I guess I'll have to see how the yield is It should be ready to dry out in another 24 hours.

 

[Entheogenerator]

So ok how do you test it without just smoking it? :?

What do you mean?

He's talking about weighing the dose. Weighing the doses for freebase DMT is essential. With Changa on the other hand, just pack a bowl and take your time getting to where you want to be. I highly recommend this ROA :thumb_up:

I still recommend weighing doses, even with changa.

So now, I'm thinking I'll just weigh the entire goo result, and do a 1:1 with caapi leaf. Then just measure 20mg of enhanced leaf and go from there.

Sounds like a good plan to me! :thumb_up:

 

[AcaciaConfusedYah]

Sounds like a good plan.
I like to make enhanced leaf using around 300-400mg of the molecule to 300-400mg of the desired leaf of choice - recently its been mint and lemon balm. I like to use acetone as the solvent instead of IPA.

A quarter of the finished product(~100mg of total molecule) will keep me busy for a few hours. I won't smoke it all at once. take a little puff here or there and then go play in the yard. Take a big puff and GO ELSEWHERE... :shock:

 

[divine_sage]

Perhaps I should make a new thread about this, but it didn't work at all.

Out of 100g of ground ACRB, I got only ~100mg of sticky goo. It was a dark orange resin, which seems to be the proper color. Had a distinctive smell, can't really describe it.

I tried the double boil changa method, and it would not melt from the hot water onto the leaf at all. So I put some isopropyl alcohol on top of the leaf + DMT combo, stirred after dissolved, and let it evaporate.

I measured 20mg of the final product, smoked from a bong and felt no effects. I did feel quite tired but nothing like a trip. I proceeded to smoke all 200mg spread across 5-6 hits, and didn't get any effect at all.

I used a torch lighter, but kept it far away from the leaves so not to burn the DMT. The taste of the smoke was pleasant. I did notice that the leaves burned quite slowly, even if I tried to bring the lighter closer near the end of a bowl - very very slow burn, impossible to burn all of it quickly.

Any thoughts? I have 400g of ACRB left, perhaps I will try the same extraction method followed by a different method. Or maybe it's a bad root batch.