Dried San Pedro from headshops - worthwhile?

[Methtical]

Hi,

I thought about putting this in the Cacti section but figured it was a bit of a noob question and perhaps was more suitable here.

I'm very intrigued by the accounts I've read from here on mescaline - how some regard it as one of their favourite entheogens due to it's smooth/gentle nature and a general relaxed pace of experience, so this appeals to me having experienced the blast off from spice, I wouldn;t mind slowing things down a bit and riding it out...

Now, from the small bit of reading I've done it would seem that, in an ideal world, I would grow my own cacti and wait rather patiently until it grew to a quantity whereby an extraction would yield respectable quantities. I'm also lead to believe that there is lots of variation in potency, and this kind og puts me off in the sense that I could spend a lot of time growing it when for all I know my efforts could be in vain. This is also complicated by an apparent lack of sources for San Pedro where I live.

I had noticed that a number of headshops sell dried san pedro, they mention boiling it up for a period of time and then drinking the resultant brew.

So my question is, if one were to purchase this dried san pedro and follow procedure, could I expect to encounter the kind of experience that is witnessed by those who do grow their own and extract from that?

Would it be possible to extract the mescaline from the dried cactus and then purify it to pure mescaline? I have read about a resin method that seems to have gained popularity - can this be done from dried cactus purchased from a store?

What kind of weights would one be looking at?

Or do I have to face the reality that if I want to experience this, I'm just going to have to bite the bullet and stay.....traditional, for lack of a better term?

Thanks for your time Nexus, always appreciated.

Methtical

 

[jamie]

cacti for is a smooth trip, but not always relaxing persay..it can be very stimulating..
I get good strong cactus chips from a head shop near my home..its good for introducing people to entheogens I think..and for going out and tripping socially..

Never done any extrction at all just ate the chips..

Personally for me I tend to think of mushrooms as superior for actual high dose visionary experiences but everyone is different.

 

[Oncewas]

Cactus I find to be the perfect natural blend of LSD and MDMA, with really only the benefits.

Yes scary things can happen just like LSD. Though it is a natural source of true beauty and bewilderment. Something that must be well respected of course.

I would suggest giving it a try! I have loved every mescaline experience I have had and look forward to many more .

 

[69ron]

Every trip SWIM has had with mescaline has been a magical experience. It is truly one of the best psychedelics. And because its 100% natural, it doesn't cause harm to the environment like lab made psychedelics do so that's another big plus in my book.

 

[Madcap]

Grow the cactus. Go ahead and check the suppliers section about both live plants and dried chips and powder. You can easily extract mescaline (where legal)

 

[Methtical]

..its good for introducing people to entheogens I think..and for going out and tripping socially..

Interesting you should say that, is it generally possible/safe to go walkies once it starts to kick in? I live close to some woods with beautiful panoramic views from the hills on a warm summers day and I reckon this would add to the experience, but I'd need to be sure I could get around ok....

Grow the cactus

I'd love to, I think it would definately make it more meaningful for me as well if it was something I'd nurtured myself, however, residing in the UK I don't feel the climate is ideal period, let alone the fact I'd have to wait until summer given that it's averaging about 5 degrees celcius during the daytime at the mo

Methtical

 

[kemist]

Interesting you should say that, is it generally possible/safe to go walkies once it starts to kick in? I live close to some woods with beautiful panoramic views from the hills on a warm summers day and I reckon this would add to the experience, but I'd need to be sure I could get around ok....

Not only that, mate.
ILPT can even handle moderate doses of his impure acetate(up to 300mgs) in streets of London with heavy trafic, loads of people etc.
He has no problem traveling on tube even if it`s involving many interchanges between different lines.
He normally get a travel card for zones 1-4 and travelling by tube, or on the top of doubledecker, then get out walking down the busiest street (oxford, camden etc.)then take bus or tube again and he LOVE IT and enjoy it.
He loved to listen music on his mp3 player all the time while tripping and it`s just great.
Then he has this incredible munchies when eating become so pleasurable.
He then stopped here and there to have some great fast food, coffee in starbucks, cake , waffle strawberries in chocolate, pasties, stonbaked pizza etc.
Now christmas comming streets are gonna look nicer when decorated, loads of lights and all brething with x-mass atmopsphere

It caused little to none mental confusion, far less then marihuana does to him. He is perfectly focused and concentrated yet tripping very hard. Whether is rainning or sunny day it`s always possitive, energetic, smiley

His first cacti experience was from phlux jelly tek performed on 30 grams of peruvianus. He attended concert in wembley. He was there first time in his life and has no problem to find venue, travel there by tube and be on the time. No confusion no disorientation which weed would normally gave him, just great. The live music was best experience ever, so so so enjoyable.

Cacti`s social aspect of tripping is far superior to every psychedelic ILPT encountered.

GREAT !!!

I'd love to, I think it would definately make it more meaningful for me as well if it was something I'd nurtured myself, however, residing in the UK I don't feel the climate is ideal period, let alone the fact I'd have to wait until summer given that it's averaging about 5 degrees celcius during the daytime at the mo

ILPT grows his cacti on windowsill in uk on east coast with great succes. He has few peyotes peruvian x pedro hybrid and recently he bought some achuma hybrid from chineese man on camden.
Cacti growing happily and are very rewarding

Many thanx to Coatl and 69ron to initiate all this cacti madness.

LOVE YOU GUYS !!!

 

[Methtical]

Wow Kemist, very reassuring, thank you very much.

I think I'm going to order some dried stuff from a headshop and give it a try, I'm moving house in the next couple of months so shall wait till then before I start growing my own cactus, might even grow some salvia too!

So do you think it would be better to just chomp down the dried stuff, boil it, or try to extract and purify the mesc?

Methtical

 

[kemist]

So do you think it would be better to just chomp down the dried stuff, boil it, or try to extract and purify the mesc?

Eating dried powdered chips was the most awfull cacti experience ILPT encountered. He had to splash it down with lager(that time he used to drink a lot) which calmed nausea but brought banging long lasting headache later on as a result of dehydratation. Alcohol and cacti no no.

Apparently eating fresh peeled san pedro wasn`t as bad as one would think. Apart that slimey texture it wasn`t unpleasant at all.

Phlux jelly tek was alright too. A bit harsher ten eating raw flesh , but one doesn`t have to eat much of that stuff because it could be nicely reduced down.

Never tried house`s resin tek, but will do with peyote as it seems disrespectful to force poor peyote trough the 69ron tek.In other words ILPT looking to recover all the healing antibiotics from peyote as well as active alkaloids

69ron`s limo tek is ILPT`s favourite preparation as it`s pretty convinient, althought results are inconsistent as ILPT never bother to do any washes on his impure acetate extracts.
Only downside of this tek is relatively high price of limo and getting rid of the healing antibiotics

It`s entirely up to you mate which way you`ll go

 

[69ron]

So do you think it would be better to just chomp down the dried stuff, boil it, or try to extract and purify the mesc?

SWIM would recommend getting pure mescaline out of it. The experience is far nicer than anything you can get from eating the cactus or performing a simple extraction (tea, resin, etc.). There are alkaloids present in these cacti with sedative effects that cloud up the experience and give it an almost alcohol-like quality. Some people like the sedatives in them though. SWIM does not like them one bit.

For SWIM, mescaline is nearly perfect, but when taken with the other alkaloids in the cactus, the beauty of the mescaline experience is pulled down a few notches. It's like having a diamond ring with mud on it. You really need to wash off the mud to appreciate the beauty of the diamond.