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Dropping the Search for The Ultimate Truth

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I relate 100%. Life is such a mystery. When I first tried psychedelics (LSD) I was positive that it was the key to life. I ended up running away and following the Grateful Dead in search of as many different psychedelics as I could find. I read Mckenna, Robert Wilson, Stan Groff, Ken Wilbur etc . I ended up doing more psychedelics than I could have ever dreamed of, but I still felt empty...maybe even more than before.

Psychedelics do indeed seem to propose more questions than they answer. I ended up taking a dark turn into heavier narcotics too after so much deep exploration at too young an age.

I ended up taking a long break from psychedelics and only recently started exploring again.Psychedelics have helped me find a new appreciation for this great mystery. They don't have all the answers, but they do give you a glimpse into whats possible beyond normal waking reality. Amazing tools if used wisely. I'm extremely grateful for them.


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@Non Dua Natura Yea wow I know exactly what you are talking about with the hearing. And how you are experiencing the sound rather than hearing it. I have also experienced something similar with the other senses.

Chapel Perilous is a concept I have studied extensively. I wonder if you are familiar with the writings of Antero Alli on the subject. His description of this state and how to get out of it helped me alot in the beginning of my journey.

We seem to be on similar paths in the awakening of new modes of awareness. I'm looking forward to hearing more about your own journey and how your experience had deepened and become less dual.
You're absolutely correct in what you've said about noticing this with the other senses, it's the natural state and to be able to 'tune in' to that is an incredibly effective way to practice.

I'm familiar with Antero Alli's work, I like his style and the way he works with the Eight-Circuit model. I've found very few writers who've dealt with the spiritual/psychological crisis as well as a guy called Daniel Ingram, his book "Mastering the Core Teachings of the Buddha" was instrumental in my practice and I recommend it to any serious meditators. He claimed to be an Arahat at one point, which is basically like claiming to have attained the same as what Gotama attained, but his view has changed since he wrote that book. He's a friend of mine and is a really cool guy, but I'd still recommend his book even if that weren't the case.

Yeah, synchronicity aplenty and so I look forward to sharing our adventures in this splendiferous psychedelic convivium!
 
Guys, I really love this thread.

Ultimate Reality... why, it is one of those terms which can lead to a whirlwind of conflicting ideologies and conceptual projections, all butting heads and jamming up against one another. But no... what I've read thus far shows a respectful and harmonious interplay of ideas. Refreshingly so, you folks totally rock!!!

Were I hard-pressed to label one perceptual picture of reality as an "Ultimate", I think I would rather turn the very propensity for human reasoning and quantification, end over end into the Void, than set my limited belief upon any conceptual picture of an Uber-reality. Mostly I feel so because any paradigm can be superseded by another, more evolved or perhaps complete, more expanded one.

There is obviously no limit to the expansion of knowledge or understanding. Well, other than the ones we mentally create by ourselves, by said fixation on interpreting the universal in our own relative terms. Psychedelics truly blow the doors off any conceptual formatting. Thoughts once well organized and logically codified, suddenly turn into comic confetti... and one is behooved to release control and flow with the ever-changing current

That being said, when we solidify into "normal" rational beings, post peaking/re-entry level modality, we find ourselves back in the realm of subject and object. The transformative experience of oneness within the Unified Field of Being has become an epiphany, an idea, a remembrance, a challenge to our reasoning capacity (and that's quite the understatement). :?

So, is the ultimate state one in which we understand that we are dreaming and that our individuality was wholly an illusion? That we do not consciously exist within an ultimate reality at all, given that the Absolute is the greater counterpoint of the relative vantage point (our own) and it's small range of perceptual reception?

I humbly believe that by not grasping at the truth, we are the very closet to it. For when we shift our conscious-awareness to that empty center, we suddenly interphase within the effulgent Grid. We witness our own eclipsing within the Omniversal vibration. Releasing all attachment, each facade of reality is dissolved by the boundaries of it's existential definition. Simply put, when we stop holding all of these ideals as reality, nothing is left to be cognizant of.

Within such a void of ideas, awareness blooms and shatters the framework of the Egoself and it's domain, save the radiant energy of the Tao. What has been labeled as: Ahura Mazda, Brahman, Aten, Yahweh, God, Allah, etc... That which pulses throughout this multiverse at play and exists as the matrix of the Unified Field of Being. Granted these are conceptual definitions and not he ultimate reality or the Sacred state. That by virtue of necessity, calls us to be merge into it's vortex and become integrated, wholly. :thumb_up:

Paradoxically, we have an organic urge to habitually proclaim ultimatums about "The Truth". Now, there is undeniably a force which indeed appears to be Omniscient. Ironically, we cannot observe it and be it at the same point in awareness. When we intentionally cast aside our subjective need for quantification,l we are introduced to a realm beyond labels, definitions or even comprehension.

IMO, the Infinite is not to be grasped, it is to be attuned to. Only within the fulcrum of deep, internal silence, can the tone of the Word be heard ringing throughout creation. This carries our attention higher and higher and higher... 😁

In it's universality, it encompasses all that potentially exists, will exist at some point with the time-space-continuum and shall still remains enigmatically unborn and completely unlimited by manifestation or any fixation to form or dimension. Or so I think, when I am in thinking modality. Essentially, when my mind is spinning like a top and churning out ideologies and conceptualizations.

Cheers All, dream a good dream.
 
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