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Read dan carpenter's book. Fascinating - but then again he hung himself a year later...
JBArk
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SWIM has tried extracting DXM a few times but it always seemed to yield 50-60% and he had gotten used to the body load and taste of the syrup to a degree, plus the nausea was nearly identical with syrup or extract. Mostly he used syrup.
In any case he's done ~20 times and a while back swore it off. It can be fun but that's about it, kinda like heroin or crack (maybe that's a stretch)
300-400mg gives you only a mild mental effect yet a strong body load. It can be lots of fun the first few times but seems to get old fast.
450-500 makes you a lazy blob and a robo-walker, mild CEVs and double vision and a mild-medium headspace change are also evident
The strongest he's had was on 525mg and he was thinking weird thoughts and had a walk to the bathroom in the dark he'll never forget. Seeing from a foot or two behind his head and the world seen like through a telescope backwards. He tried to repeat the experience 2 times after that going up to 600mg but it seemed to have lost it's magic.
>600mg is appearently an intense trip where there can be ego loss in addition to loss of visual processing and near-paralysis, but this isn't a 45-60 minute k-hole this is 8 or more hours! SWIM's roomie did it and he was 100% sure he died and was playing his life like a First-Person-Shooter in terror until he passed out.
Pros:
Something to try, can be slightly psychedelic
Cons:
Frequent large doses can possibly cause lesions in the brain. Recommended: 1 week between light doses, 2 weeks between medium doses, 3 weeks between strong doses
REALLY long with baseline coming no sooner than 10 hours after dosing, ofter 16 hours plus where effects are felt
Doing anything at the psychedelic doses is super difficult.
Strong doses can be scary and overwhelming and once again LONG.
Can be addicting, be careful
Loses it's magic quickly
SWIM swore it off so it he may be a bit biased.
Good luck
In any case he's done ~20 times and a while back swore it off. It can be fun but that's about it, kinda like heroin or crack (maybe that's a stretch)
300-400mg gives you only a mild mental effect yet a strong body load. It can be lots of fun the first few times but seems to get old fast.
450-500 makes you a lazy blob and a robo-walker, mild CEVs and double vision and a mild-medium headspace change are also evident
The strongest he's had was on 525mg and he was thinking weird thoughts and had a walk to the bathroom in the dark he'll never forget. Seeing from a foot or two behind his head and the world seen like through a telescope backwards. He tried to repeat the experience 2 times after that going up to 600mg but it seemed to have lost it's magic.
>600mg is appearently an intense trip where there can be ego loss in addition to loss of visual processing and near-paralysis, but this isn't a 45-60 minute k-hole this is 8 or more hours! SWIM's roomie did it and he was 100% sure he died and was playing his life like a First-Person-Shooter in terror until he passed out.
Pros:
Something to try, can be slightly psychedelic
Cons:
Frequent large doses can possibly cause lesions in the brain. Recommended: 1 week between light doses, 2 weeks between medium doses, 3 weeks between strong doses
REALLY long with baseline coming no sooner than 10 hours after dosing, ofter 16 hours plus where effects are felt
Doing anything at the psychedelic doses is super difficult.
Strong doses can be scary and overwhelming and once again LONG.
Can be addicting, be careful
Loses it's magic quickly
SWIM swore it off so it he may be a bit biased.
Good luck
Blundering_Novice
Rising Star
Sounds dreadful.
trancepants
Rising Star
q21q21 said:
What is SWIY's body weight? Dosage with this drug depends on your weight almost entirely.
It is interesting, but Ketamine is way better. It is cleaner, shorter lasting, and less draining than dex.
DXM is psychedelic and can give you a third person perspective on yourself and can be used as a healing and sharpening tool. SWIM hasn't done it in years, but is still interested in it. He is especially interested in a DXM+K combination one day possibly.
DXM is a profound but crude dissociative which feels immensely toxic on the body.It is addicitive but I guess you really need to get off on the buzz to develop a problem with it.Not my cup of tea...
I once took 535mg of DXM hydrobromide which equates to 10mg/kg of body weight and this was a heavy duty hit.Once the come-up started it came on for about 20 minutes then left me physically incapacitated with a weird telescoping to my vision and a head effect like a K-hole hit of IM ketamine but not as pleasant.And this profound state of chemical lobotomy lasted almost 8 hours.This is was whats known as a 3rd plateau hit and was enough.I wouldnt want to attempt to reach plateau 4 or beyond this to plateau sigma as the trade-off between the toxic physical feeling and 'buzz' doesnt seem worth it to me.
Its also the case that some people have less of the required cytochromic enzyme to break this stuff down in the body and hence if you are going to play with this stuff you should ALWAYS start off with a small dose and see what happens.
In terms of getting you 'right out there' DXM is impressive but I assure you that if you choose to give it a miss you are really not missing much.IM ketamine is much much superior in my humble opinion.
I once took 535mg of DXM hydrobromide which equates to 10mg/kg of body weight and this was a heavy duty hit.Once the come-up started it came on for about 20 minutes then left me physically incapacitated with a weird telescoping to my vision and a head effect like a K-hole hit of IM ketamine but not as pleasant.And this profound state of chemical lobotomy lasted almost 8 hours.This is was whats known as a 3rd plateau hit and was enough.I wouldnt want to attempt to reach plateau 4 or beyond this to plateau sigma as the trade-off between the toxic physical feeling and 'buzz' doesnt seem worth it to me.
Its also the case that some people have less of the required cytochromic enzyme to break this stuff down in the body and hence if you are going to play with this stuff you should ALWAYS start off with a small dose and see what happens.
In terms of getting you 'right out there' DXM is impressive but I assure you that if you choose to give it a miss you are really not missing much.IM ketamine is much much superior in my humble opinion.
People seem to discount my experience somewhat, but due to a low level of enzymes (pretty common), or whatever caused it - on 'just' 300mg I was poisoned for days. I had previously tried lower doses (100mg) for other purposes and didn't experience anything that signalled that this would happen. Don't forgot that other medications can interact with it, and effect the way that your liver processes it. Things you might not expect.
There were times days later when I was scared that I would have to call an ambulance.
There were times days later when I was scared that I would have to call an ambulance.
I wouldn't use it as a narcotic. Getting lesions in my brain has little appeal to me.
I used it once for what it's supposed to work for: colds. I didn't take an amount that's supposed to have any narcotic effect and i got incredibly sleepy. So even in low amounts it's very sedating.
I used it once for what it's supposed to work for: colds. I didn't take an amount that's supposed to have any narcotic effect and i got incredibly sleepy. So even in low amounts it's very sedating.
dtabbler
Rising Star
appreciate the responses! as far as lesions on the brain i believe the researcher that initially devoloped that hyposthesis retracted many of his statements, (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/dxm_health3.shtml) although more looking into that should be done be myself.
basically, this began with a buddy drinking a bottle o syrup, swim saying "hey i can make that clean" and now swim is looking at some really beautiful freebase dxm crystals going "hmmm....."
ill have to post pics of the xtals swim got they're quite beautiful!
any more info, thoughts, opinions are always greatly appreciated!
basically, this began with a buddy drinking a bottle o syrup, swim saying "hey i can make that clean" and now swim is looking at some really beautiful freebase dxm crystals going "hmmm....."
ill have to post pics of the xtals swim got they're quite beautiful!
any more info, thoughts, opinions are always greatly appreciated!
trancepants
Rising Star
A weight/dosage calculator and another forum discussing its accuracy.q21q21 said:
Calculator
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Once upon a time I took the prescribed dose on the bottle for a cold, I slept for 36 hours straight. :? Swore it off after that. Does anyone know more about the enzymes involved, and how some people have more than others?
Ginkgo
Rising Star
CYP2D6 is the major enzyme at play, in addition to a few other cytochrome P450 enzymes. A rather large portion of humans have poor CYP2D6 levels. According to Wikipedia, 2% of Asians, 6-10% of white people, and a somewhat larger number of black people have poor CYP2D6 metabolism. An even larger portion than this have a mediocre CYP2D6 levels. So yes, it is widely variable, and because of your response I guess you are one of the persons with poor levels of this enzyme. Keep that in mind when taking substances affecting CYP2D6! You can see a good list of the ligands at Wikipedia.ms_manic_minxx said:
Interesting, thanks! There were one or two other drugs I've had to take at some point in my life on that list and the experience was never one I wanted to repeat. :shock:
I guess it's a good idea to make sure you have the right enzymes before taking too much of something. :idea:
I guess it's a good idea to make sure you have the right enzymes before taking too much of something. :idea:
That's sort of my experience with the stuff as well. If i take the proscribed dose of this stuff, it totally knocks me out within 45 minutes. You could take me to a heavy metal concert or a rave even, and i'll sleep through it.ms_manic_minxx said:
Still think this stuff is OK? :
Sublime
Intraterrestrial
You want pure Dextromethorphan Hbr. It's in Robitussin gel capsules. Ive done it three times. Took 20 all three times, 300mg. The trip is intense. I felt really high and intoxicated, tired, lazy, etc. for about 8 hours. I was wondering when it would ware off, I actually went to sleep still high. I got a lot of itching, which was annoying. One thing I remember is how heavy I felt I was. Moving around felt like being stuck in glue in a world where gravity's center was to the left instead of below me. Odd stuff, not really interested in doing it again. Oh mild hallucinations, kinda like with DMT when things are wavy and stuff.