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Easiest Way to Get Nice Crystals Without Re-Crystalizing! (IMO) Pics Included!

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godisenergy

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SWIM just came across the best technique ever! SWIMs sure many others have found this out before, but they'll share it with ya'll anyways.

So SWIM did this with Vovin's tech, but you can do it with any method that leaves you with a clean naphtha/organic solvent layer.

After you've de-fatted your DMT filtrate, applied a naphtha layer and done a sodium carbonate wash, you have a jar of clean-ish looking naphtha. What to do now? You could wait until it evaporates or freeze precipitate it, but SWIM will do one better!

1. Take your clean naphtha with your dissolved DMT and put it in a beaker or a small glass pyrex baking dish (the kind used for meatloaf and such) and then rubber-band a couple layers of napkins or paper towels or a hanker chief over the top.

2. Then, put this semi-breathable container in a covered place outside that is well ventilated. SWIM would go with one of those charcoal BBQ grills with the removable lids. You just need a place that will protect it from the rain and elements, but will also vent out the naphtha.

3. After your container is in a well covered, well ventilated spot OUTSIDE, just wait a couple weeks, or more.

4. As the naphtha evaporates, the concentration of DMT gets higher. But since the temperature gets higher during the daytime and lower at night, this constantly dissolves and re-crystalizes the DMT in the naphtha everyday. This will slowly, but surely build up some pretty nice and pure crystals. In a sense, it's like recrystalizing in the traditional sense, but you don't have to re-dissolve your DMT or spend more money on more solvent.

5. If the naphtha is evaporating faster than you expected, just rubber-band more layers of paper towel to the top of your container.

6. This takes time, and is probably more effective during the colder months, but SWIM can't say for sure. Doing a good job with the de-fatting will probably get you some cleaner crystals.

Let SWIM know what you think of the technique! :)

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biopsylo said:
thanks for the reply,,

so the naptha used for the 3-4 defats--is this washed and recycled for future extractions?

SWIM didn't recycle the naphtha. He's not even too sure how to recycle solvents other than investing in one of those huge machines they have in professional labs. But he did end up spending about 14 dollars for the naphtha that he used for the de-fat as well as the extraction itself. (about two liters or so of naphtha.)

Some people say that you don't even have to defat when extracting from MHRB powder, but I would not know what the final product would look like without the de-fat.

Hope that helps!
 
godisenergy said:
benzyme said:
nice

I've seen purer 😉

You'll have to lemme see sometime! :)

my apologies, saying "i've seen purer" was a bit misleading (and I was kidding, I don't know the percent purity of your product). you can't see pure, per se, any more than you can claim "it's pure" without testing for purity...it has to be determined by analytical means. I've 'seen' it with a melting point apparatus, and HPLC-MS

you product looks very clean, but purity claims are qualitatively relative unless quantified

but good stuff, nonetheless. looks similar to Phlux's
 
benzyme said:
godisenergy said:
benzyme said:
nice

I've seen purer 😉

You'll have to lemme see sometime! :)

my apologies, saying "i've seen purer" was a bit misleading (and I was kidding, I don't know the percent purity of your product). you can't see pure, per se, any more than you can claim "it's pure" without testing for purity...it has to be determined by analytical means. I've 'seen' it with a melting point apparatus, and HPLC-MS

you product looks very clean, but purity claims are qualitatively relative unless quantified

but good stuff, nonetheless. looks similar to Phlux's

Ah... Haha, no worries. :) Iz just eager for some more feedback/advice. I was actually asking myself the same thing though... Because I wasn't completely convinced that a crystallized product necessarily equates to a smooth toke. This stuff was somewhat harsh when SWIM first tried it. My concern was the presence of residual NaOH sneaking up inside that crystal lattice. However, people on the forum have told me of how hard it is to correctly vaporize it without a GVG.

I remember back in my college chemistry lab, they had one of those melting point apparatuses, and it was really cool! Looking back now, I wish I would've taken a little five finger discount... but I'm only joking because stealing is wrong. 😉
 
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