Efficient Use

[PupilOfPerception]

So, one of the things that has bothered me in the past was seeing a friend take these huge inhalations of dmt, barely hold it in, and blow out a huge cloud of vapor, only to then do it again. I kept telling him to hold it in, or to take smaller hits, so as to not waste it.

Thinking on this subject, I was led to recall a time from my youth when I witnessed someone 'hyperventilating' nitrous into a balloon until he passed out (didn't look that fun to me). So, I got to thinking, what if my buddy were to take this huge inhalation, and then, when he was ready to blow it out, blew it into a balloon, and then, once he was ready to take that next hit, drew from the previous hit which now resided in the balloon, such that it would get a second chance for absorption.

Anyone tried something like this or have thoughts, comments, etc.? This molecule is so precious that to blow large clouds of it out into the air just seems... sacrilegious.

 

[universecannon]

if you hold it in for like 20 seconds it seems that nearly all of it is absorbed by the lungs

though there are some members here like hyperspace fool who speak highly of that method, so it would be fun to try it out The Balloon: A very useful tip for my entheo-comrades - Other - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

 

[PupilOfPerception]

if you hold it in for like 20 seconds it seems that nearly all of it is absorbed by the lungs

Yeah, I'm not really asking for me (seriously, I don't do the 'SWIM' thing - I think it's kinda lame), as I tend to hold things in long enough to not suffer this particular problem. Although I do wonder about something: just because you can't see the vapor doesn't mean it's not there. I wish I had the necessary tools to measure this idea with more than merely anecdotal evidence.

though there are some members here like hyperspace fool who speak highly of that method, so it would be fun to try it out The Balloon: A very useful tip for my entheo-comrades - Other - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus .

Thank you! I didn't even think to search the forums because I thought the idea was so odd that no one would've thought of it. I've learned my lesson! Unfortunately, that thread really devolved into things that were totally off-topic, and it's unfortunate that so many people derided the technique without trying it first.

As I mentioned, after reading that thread I'm curious as to whether or not the apparent lack of 'visible' vapor, especially for those that know how to hold it in for 20-30 seconds, can be assumed to imply there's no dmt contained therein.

I'm going to strongly recommend that my friend give this technique a go and report back so that I can post feedback.

At some point, I hope to attain the status that will allow me to post to that thread above, and I'll provide the feedback there as well.

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

As I mentioned, after reading that thread I'm curious as to whether or not the apparent lack of 'visible' vapor, especially for those that know how to hold it in for 20-30 seconds, can be assumed to imply there's no dmt contained therein.

there are many electric vaporizers that can be set to specific temperatures, and the lower ones definitely vaporize, but there is absolutely no visible vapor.

you can taste it though... and if you can smell dmt in the vapor, that means there are enough particles in it for you to smell (granted your nose can detect particles in the parts-per-billion, but still).

 

[PupilOfPerception]

So, it was tried and determined, for my friend, that it wasn't worth the extra hassle, if worth anything at all.

 

[anrchy]

why doesnt your friend simply "attempt" to hold it in longer? Why go through the hassle of using another device to accomplish something so easy?