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I realize there is a topic for this on the graduated member forums, but i wanted to post about an experience i recently had with 69rons beloved elemicin. I had ordered some oil-100% therapeutic grade-but i did not yet have any DMSO for use in separating the elemicin partially from the myrcene and euclyptol(sp?) in the oil. Both myrcene and euclyptol are sedatives and are unwanted, although you'd have to take a very high dose of elemicin before the myrcene and euclyptol cause problems. Nevertheless, still potentially unpleasant.
Wishing to test the oil from my vendor, i took 2ml of it in soy milk as the effects are better when the pure elemicin is diluted ( i believe regular milk is recommended but i was out, so i drank a tiny amount of half and half for lactose ), so i figured it was the same for the oil.
I new the oil was good quality and had elemicin by the smell, but i was wary because of the controversy as to placebo effects. So i tried to resist the elemicin in order to disprove that.
It worked.
It was only 2ml-i did not get any visuals as some say at that dose. But there was a very stimulating quality to it, but not scary bugged out stimulating like the time i took too much yohimbine. 10, maybe 20 minutes after i took it i began to feel mildly buzzed. Then, about 45 minutes later, i was wired. I was talking to my girlfriend over phone, and she said i was a bit hyper.
While it wasn't what i'd call intense, it was pretty strong for only 2ML of a substance that people hold in skepticism. There is no reason for this-elemicin is a proven anticholinergic. But i have tried anticholinergic (deliriant) substances before and that is not how it felt. I have never tried ecstasy, but based on what people say, it felt somewhere in that ballpark, but more electric, thought stimulating, than empathogenic.
The bad part comes the next day when i suddenly felt very tired. I think this is because the myrcene stayed with me. That morning, although i didnt realize it at the time, i was much more awake than i normally am mornings, and i had woken up at 4am from my sleep and had an easy time getting back to bed, but i wouldn't say my sleep was restful. I think that the elemicin buzz got weaker after a couple hours, but carried me all the way to 2'o clock the next day, and when it went out, the myrcene took over and thats what made me feel so tired. I don't normally feel tired like that, i can tell the difference between "wiped out" and "sedated". A
Anyway, the tolerance lasts a week. I would like to experience visuals from this, but next time i will buy DMSO to separate the elemicin from the myrcene and euclyptol to avoid the sedated feeling near the end. Without separating it, i do not believe it is entirely safe to use 5ml or above.
I will report what happens with 5ml, and i hope for visuals.
Thoughts, ideas, input?
Wishing to test the oil from my vendor, i took 2ml of it in soy milk as the effects are better when the pure elemicin is diluted ( i believe regular milk is recommended but i was out, so i drank a tiny amount of half and half for lactose ), so i figured it was the same for the oil.
I new the oil was good quality and had elemicin by the smell, but i was wary because of the controversy as to placebo effects. So i tried to resist the elemicin in order to disprove that.
It worked.
It was only 2ml-i did not get any visuals as some say at that dose. But there was a very stimulating quality to it, but not scary bugged out stimulating like the time i took too much yohimbine. 10, maybe 20 minutes after i took it i began to feel mildly buzzed. Then, about 45 minutes later, i was wired. I was talking to my girlfriend over phone, and she said i was a bit hyper.
While it wasn't what i'd call intense, it was pretty strong for only 2ML of a substance that people hold in skepticism. There is no reason for this-elemicin is a proven anticholinergic. But i have tried anticholinergic (deliriant) substances before and that is not how it felt. I have never tried ecstasy, but based on what people say, it felt somewhere in that ballpark, but more electric, thought stimulating, than empathogenic.
The bad part comes the next day when i suddenly felt very tired. I think this is because the myrcene stayed with me. That morning, although i didnt realize it at the time, i was much more awake than i normally am mornings, and i had woken up at 4am from my sleep and had an easy time getting back to bed, but i wouldn't say my sleep was restful. I think that the elemicin buzz got weaker after a couple hours, but carried me all the way to 2'o clock the next day, and when it went out, the myrcene took over and thats what made me feel so tired. I don't normally feel tired like that, i can tell the difference between "wiped out" and "sedated". A
Anyway, the tolerance lasts a week. I would like to experience visuals from this, but next time i will buy DMSO to separate the elemicin from the myrcene and euclyptol to avoid the sedated feeling near the end. Without separating it, i do not believe it is entirely safe to use 5ml or above.
I will report what happens with 5ml, and i hope for visuals.
Thoughts, ideas, input?
