Entities or visuals?

[terencimaquena]

Hello Nexus!

I've been wondering now, after some experience with DMT, if there is a clear difference between Entities and Anthropomorphic visuals.

Let me elaborate:
I've experienced non-anthropomorphic visuals, generally geometric spaces imbued with meaning/message.
I've experienced too, in my last trip, some kind of huge moving "human-like statues", that walked all around me (all around in the literal sense... they were curving every time they moved close to me, like I was an sphere embraced by their presence).

So, my questions to the more experienced people in here are:
How do you differentiate between entities and visuals? Is it an entity because the meaning they emanate? What makes an entity such thing?

These "human-like statues" seemed unbothered by my presence there. I'm very curious about them, so if anyone has experienced these... Even if you don't have any answers, I'd appreciate your comment

Dosage was always very very low. 10mg probably, although my scale seems to be a bit off. I'm still starting, so I want to be respectful of the substance and whatever I may encounter.

Thanks for reading!

 

[Voidmatrix]

This is familiar to me, especially at that dose.

I tend to think of it in the same way I know I'm interacting or observing a person rather than a statue. It kinda comes down to behavior.

Indifference of entities is normal as well. They come in all shapes, sizes, affects, and demeanor.

One love

 

[MacElf_234]

Your question is at the heart of my quandary. On the one hand I allow for the possibility of the existence of the disembodied “intelligences”. On the other, I wonder if the psychedelic experience is just a facet of my psyche /chem altered by the substance. I recently read one of the rabbit hole threads here about the “true nature of reality”.
Good food for thought.
Best,

 

[Voidmatrix]

Your question is at the heart of my quandary. On the one hand I allow for the possibility of the existence of the disembodied “intelligences”. On the other, I wonder if the psychedelic experience is just a facet of my psyche /chem altered by the substance. I recently read one of the rabbit hole threads here about the “true nature of reality”.
Good food for thought.
Best,

This is a topic that comes up often, primarily because we may never come to know.

It could be completely outside us.
It could be an experience produced by our brains in a drug influenced state.
It could be a mix of the two in that the space may conform to how it feels you will respond to it which necessitates the inner workings of your own mind.

Here's the kicker. It's also possible that all of these are the case and which one or ones hold up in any given experience depends on the context of and in that experience.

One love

 

[Exitwound]

There were different ways I'd encounter something different than just "surroundings".

The very first try on a small 5-10mg dose, the CEVs were very bleak, aztecish-snaky but I distinctly felt like a feminine observing presense.

Some trips,. right after launch, when you fly through spaces and tunnels it distinctly feels like you are being guided and entertained and your mind being blown away in a loving way.

Other trips, 15-20mg range, when you still can open eyes and be here somewhat coherent, when I close eyes dive is getting deeper and I see them, very doll-like cartoonish and performing girl is performing strange surgical procedure on the other.

Another trip, the space is very white (but in different shades of white) and geometric-cubic, the elf has geometric-gothic look and his nose is curling into spirals and he is pouring some divine shiny substance, which is very different from geometric white surroundings.

Other trip it feels like another flight through fractal tunnels but suddenly the speed of movement change and fractal background in front of me begins to warp and dance and among the dance of these 6-dimensional wavy fractals two distinct vibrations emerge, very playful and I feel that they are introducing themselves to me and want to be friends here in hyperspace and play.

Yet another trip launches me far past elven dimensions and I see them on the wave up, elves and other stretchy swirly dudes they are waving me buh-bye on my way up and I break through to the alien dimension. I am in what feels like an alien living space, what I would call and alien kitchen, there are two humanoids, but that's the only human thing about them, we interact with gestures but I don't recall details of the trip.

Another BT and I live among marching robot dudes, who like to organize their live around conveyor-like activities.

Jesters - they present sometimes like almost on the edge of your vision, sometimes they emerge in your face. Sometimes they interrupt your trip and mock and try to frighten you, but if you don't get frightened and take their jests in a good spirit, they leave you alone.

Sometimes you are in surroundings and then surroundings become alive, interacting with you and responding to your thoughts. Sometimes entities just are there, sometimes you get teleported from one dimension to another. Bam! and you are in a room with this beautiful blue round-ish entity, which is like a hyperdimensional klein bottle but with moving parts. It emits strange geometric shapes, as if questioning your presence here.

So yeah, it can be very different each time. 10mg doses is about on the edge of feeling other presences for me and you can see shapes but they don't become sentient.

 

[terencimaquena]

Thanks everyone for your comments
Had a more intense experience yesterday, might post about it if I can put it into words. No entities involved, but... Well, I'll leave it for the post

 

[Pandora]

I am hyper DMT sensitive (old) and get entities on very low doses. They begin as anthropomorphic and stationary - like glued to the wall or seated in a seat or throne. This is (for me) at about 8 to 9 mgs. Now add a bit on the dose (9 to 10 mgs) and they are animated, up moving around, running around, working, playing, dancing, building things, but usually not aware or interested in me.

Bump it up a bit, now in the 10 to 11 mgs range and things start to look amazing and the entities are noticing me, showing me things, examining me, sticking things in my hyper-head, putting hands over my hyper-face. But these guys are still basically anthropomorphic.

Bump it up a bit more, say a solid 12 mgs and now there are no guarantees other than there will be entity contact. They might be interested in me, they might not, they might be anthropomorphic or very alien. My last 12 mgs trip I met something like this:




Thanks @dreamer042 for running my text description through an AI art generator. Usually that does not work well at all but this time it was eerily close.

Increase the dose even more and now I'm approaching a breakthrough (last solid breakthrough was 22 mgs) if not having one and the entities are alien, sometimes machinelike and very pushy. They are surprised to see me, are wondering why I am there, who I am, why I am interrupting their activities. They lunge at me, they compete to push each other out of the way to get up into my hyperface.


It's all very strange when I stop to think about it. I mean there is a small part of me that says: Well with the higher doses I am completely rezzing/beaming/manifesting into their realms, with lower doses I'm only coming in partially - a good analogy would be a ghost.

And then there is what remains of my rational and joy-filled mind which says: Well, look, you cannot control this and will never have all the answers. Let's enjoy the mystery. Just think - it's either that we are manifesting in another dimension OR it is that these infinite, inhabited spaces exist within the oversized grapefruit space of my brain. Either/both of these explanations is deeply surprising and very satisfying. Astonishment continues to be on the menu.