Experience using harmine or harmoline with dmt? Also working on a continous extraction setup...

[Bratticus23]

So i have been experimenting with harmine and harmoline as an additive but I am skeptical to use it. I used it once in a cart and it did nothing to make me feel any different. Does anybody have any suggestions as to what to do or how to use harmine and harmolines with dmt for vaping?

Also next thing I have been playing with the idea and setup of a continous extraction setup. The first run i did with minimal bark in case there was an issue. The second one I got nothing back. Is it just a waste of time or had anybody conquered this feat as of yet? Just curious..

One more thing.. whats with the shredded mhrb? I used it for the first time and I had to use way too much water. I have always used the powdered and I dont know why I let myself fall for the curiosity trap but I did and I got BS yield lol. I read that you keep processing the shredded until the water is no longer getting very much color and ended up with over 6 liters of carrier phase... total nightmare and WASTE OF TIME..

 

[_Trip_]

Sublingal harmala might be a better idea.


Otherwise if you want to vape it you need to find a compatible vape salt. Which you'd have 2 options, either use a compatible salt of dmt and harmala (lactate is the only one I know of for pg/vg juice) or make a separate harmala vape.


Did you reduce the 6l?

 

[TransistorBass]

For Shredded Bark I used this for my first extraction and it yeilded plenty to keep me going for about 6 months - Acid/Base - Adam Butler - Butler's DMT Field Guide Its quite a long process of simmering and straining, I never weighed what I got from it but 6 months of sessions was plenty for me.

And as far as I know no one has managed to make a successful Harmine or Harmaline vape as it doesn't dissolve in Vape juice, you can try smoking it in a Glass pipe like you would with Freebase but try not to burn it, Sublingual as @_Trip_ says above is the better route with Harmalas about 30-60mins before Vaping DMT.

 

[_Trip_]

There's plenty of successful experiments with harmala salts and vape juice if iirc.
Loveall and I have a thread somewhere on here about it.
Lactate worked very well for harmala. I still have the original harmala lactate in vape juice somewhere. Still hasn't precipitated after a 4 years now.

Research Post in thread 'DMT salts for e-juice'

Feb 10, 2024

This is one reason I like the idea of dmt lactate as lactic acid is produced by nearly every part of the body in particular the muscular skeleton system and red blood cells. Making it a safe bet for the lungs.

In addition harmala lactate is also soluble in vape juice making the salt form compatible with harmala and dmt together.

• _Trip_

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Post in thread 'Lazy alkaloid salting combos (CISLO)'

Sep 12, 2022

I just wanted to add Loveall,

I'm not sure exactly how soluble harmala tartrate is in PG/VG, it appears mostly soluble I went with the ratio's from the Hielo Tek.

.06ml VG
.20ml PG
.10mg Harmala Tartrate Crystals

Unsure if these are the right ratios I don't vape.

Majority was soluble I could have tried heating it, waiting longer, mixing it better or change the ratios but a few tiny crystals didn't dissolve.

Will look into lactic and malic next.

Edit: missed the heat bath line in the Hielo tek, it would likely be fully soluble then.

• _Trip_

Edot. Oh god, I'm so bad with links, I was just trying to quote the thread not my comments.

 

[TransistorBass]

Ooo, Interesting.