Epiphany from DMT. Understanding what DMT does.

[TrustLoveMan]

I think I finally figured out what DMT is. I had myself a session today and I brought back much more than I expected. I knew this before, but DMT is a powerful tool. I think what is does is, it takes apart reality. It turns off certain parts of reality/ego so you can objectivity see things in your mind's eye.
You can imagine everything breaking down into...there is no word for it. It tells you the story of yourself and all human conciousness. This sacrement is the answer to every question in the universe.
It is the seed of consciousness. This is where every single god ever came from. This is a gem that only a few people get to experience. I can't believe I found it. It is literally the best thing that I've ever owned. If I was on a desert island and I could only take one thing besides food and security, I would choose DMT.
It is pure understanding in chemical form. I felt like I understood life. I've heard many people say that they are infinetly contructed and deconstructed in their experiences. This is what this chemical does. It takes everything apart into managable pieces. Anyone who wants to be a phycologist or philosopher should take this substance.
It shows you every part of yourself and your ego. It makes you want to go into the world and learn everything. I want to research and learn the world right now. DMT is the seed of creativity and imagination.
I have been shown contradictions before on DMT so I want to see what other smokers thought. I also realized that I wish I had more people to share this with. I wish I knew all of you in person and we could talk so that I could express myself better.
What do you guys think dmt is? One thing is certain, it can make me understand such amazing things that I will cry if I don't hold back my emotions.

 

[joebono]

I've had similar trips where every atom and star in the universe are revealed to me along with their purpose and everything's reason for being. This is truly a godlike state where I was omniscient and literally the creator of the whole thing. Unfortunately, these revelations are always ephemeral and once the unity of information and experience are achieved they slowly begin to unravel leaving me with my measly five senses to wallow back in ignorance. So I gained something and then lost it, completely. As each second passes from the experience, its like sand slipping through my hands disappearing and all I am left with is a vague memory and a fleeting feeling.

Sometimes I feel that the manufacturing of DMT in plants is just an evolutionary trait by a wise Mimosa Hostilis tree to get us high through illusory enlightenment in an effort to get us to propagate more DMT plants. It's a scam by a tree that laughs at our intelligence and toys with our heads to ensure its own survival. There is no sense to make of the experience because that's the plants trick - keep dropping those breadcrumbs and Hansel and Gretel will keep coming as they think they are getting closer to enlightenment or whatever they are looking for.

 

[TrustLoveMan]

I've had similar trips where every atom and star in the universe are revealed to me along with their purpose and everything's reason for being. This is truly a godlike state where I was omniscient and literally the creator of the whole thing. Unfortunately, these revelations are always ephemeral and once the unity of information and experience are achieved they slowly begin to unravel leaving me with my measly five senses to wallow back in ignorance. So I gained something and then lost it, completely. As each second passes from the experience, its like sand slipping through my hands disappearing and all I am left with is a vague memory and a fleeting feeling.

Sometimes I feel that the manufacturing of DMT in plants is just an evolutionary trait by a wise Mimosa Hostilis tree to get us high through illusory enlightenment in an effort to get us to propagate more DMT plants. It's a scam by a tree that laughs at our intelligence and toys with our heads to ensure its own survival. There is no sense to make of the experience because that's the plants trick - keep dropping those breadcrumbs and Hansel and Gretel will keep coming as they think they are getting closer to enlightenment or whatever they are looking for.

I have also had this thought. This could be this plant's survival technique.
I came out of this trip with this realization burned into my memory. I was out for the duration of the trip but I usually "wake up". This is I was bolted away, I'm not sure why. This is why I think it stuck. I had about 1000 other epiphanies but they are lost in time.

 

[ms_manic_minxx]

Ah, but no witch with a gingerbread house has ever been so sweet... so good to me... so sincerely caring... I daresay it's a loving symbiosis. And if it is, so what? It's magnificent.

 

[88]

I think the idea that plants manipulate us in order to survive is a very valid one - I've often wondered why plants have certain effects on us monkeys, like opiates, cocoa, tobacco etc - what is the evolutionary advantage? We like it, so we protect and nurture the plant.

But spice is a strange one - I think Jurema and Mama Aya just wanted someone to talk to; we are THEIR gateway as well, our minds are portals into this dimension, which is otherwise not available to Them.

I am also absolutely certain that insects are controlled by plants. Totally. I know this because I was inducted into the Mantoid Army. Word

 

[TrustLoveMan]

I think the idea that plants manipulate us in order to survive is a very valid one - I've often wondered why plants have certain effects on us monkeys, like opiates, cocoa, tobacco etc - what is the evolutionary advantage? We like it, so we protect and nurture the plant.

But spice is a strange one - I think Jurema and Mama Aya just wanted someone to talk to; we are THEIR gateway as well, our minds are portals into this dimension, which is otherwise not available to Them.

I am also absolutely certain that insects are controlled by plants. Totally. I know this because I was inducted into the Mantoid Army. Word

I feel it could also be some sort of gateway.
I've thought that DMT could be our only connection to alien life. I believe in aliens, but the distance they could be away from here is impossibly large. I'm sure it would hundreds of years to even get a message to an alien planet. When I was under the influence, I saw life grow and evolve. Not life on earth though, it was life in general. Then I saw 'life' become intelligent.
I did also have a thought that aliens implanted us with DMT and other things in our mind so we can eventually discover them.
These ideas become very real in hyperspace. I just can't tell if it's a higher being or a reflection of myself. One part of me thinks it's all in my mind. It's just my life and ego being obliterated piece by piece. I'll think DMT is the thing that gods came from.
The other part thinks that, we are all part of some greater purpose and our existence was partly created by another being. I'll think god is the thing that DMT came from. Either aliens or gods or what have you.
It's very strange. I can come out of one trip completely certain that there is a god. And other, I'll come out feeling like everything is random in life. I don't know if it's just my interpretations but I seem to be getting contradictory lessons in hyperspace.

 

[joebono]

I don't know if it's just my interpretations but I seem to be getting contradictory lessons in hyperspace.

I think contradictions and infinite loops of logical conclusions and their opposites are the language of hyperspace. I go through powerful epiphanies followed by moments of shifting confusion devoid of any certainty or knowledge at all. It's like they say, "Look at this, you see the meaning?" and then "Ah but wait, consider this." And after considering that, the first truth they showed me was a lie. I can usually put an end to the game by saying out loud, "Just stop thinking!"

 

[Felnik]

To me the astronomical distances in the universe are a clue to what DMT is about. Its impossible to conceive of travelling around the universe using traditional methods as we know them to be. The ability to transend these great distances must lie in ways we have never even imagined. I am thinking that highly advanced lifeforms would have figured out a long time ago how to use hyperspace to move freely throughout the universe. I am seeing the great vastness of space as a reason to believe we are encountering a genuine reality of some kind . not to mention the theme that keeps coming up that these highly intelligent being created this reality and hyperspace itself.

Today after a deep journey yesterday I'm thinking that this matter reality we live in one of many manifestations of hyperspace. This reality has grown outward like a plant right out of the deepest recesses of this hyperspacial network. I believe that we are living in a very unique place and that this world and all the living things in it are precious. I believe that the beings are amazed at what they have created.

I'm thinking that the more we trancend the fear of the unknown realms of hyperspace the more that will be available to us. I feel like its possible that these beings are ready to share something with us.

Something changed in me the moment i switched my thinking and began to believe that hyperspace is a tangible real extension of this reality.
yesterday i got a sample of what its like to have an expanded ability to percieve hyperspace and this reality together simultaneously . Its nothing less than indescribably amazing.

I accept this now and am beginning to gear myself up for more of the truth that i know is coming.

 

[TrustLoveMan]

I don't know if it's just my interpretations but I seem to be getting contradictory lessons in hyperspace.

I think contradictions and infinite loops of logical conclusions and their opposites are the language of hyperspace. I go through powerful epiphanies followed by moments of shifting confusion devoid of any certainty or knowledge at all. It's like they say, "Look at this, you see the meaning?" and then "Ah but wait, consider this." And after considering that, the first truth they showed me was a lie. I can usually put an end to the game by saying out loud, "Just stop thinking!"

I know what you mean. If i'm thinking a lot during a trip (usually because I didn't smoke quick enough), I end up missing a lot of what's happening because I'm not focused on my CEV's. If I'm clear minded and paying attention, I get the most beautiful animations. I remember one so perfectly I could actually make it in flash if I wanted. My friend has, almost exclusively, bad trips. This is because he cannot stop thinking in his mind.

 

[jmaxton]

Sometimes I feel that the manufacturing of DMT in plants is just an evolutionary trait by a wise Mimosa Hostilis tree to get us high through illusory enlightenment in an effort to get us to propagate more DMT plants. It's a scam by a tree that laughs at our intelligence and toys with our heads to ensure its own survival. There is no sense to make of the experience because that's the plants trick - keep dropping those breadcrumbs and Hansel and Gretel will keep coming as they think they are getting closer to enlightenment or whatever they are looking for.

If you're interested in an in-depth exploration of plants' self-serving influence on human behavior and their 'intelligent' coevolution with humans, I highly recommend the book The Botany of Desire by Michael Pollan. It describes this scenario exactly using four common plants as examples: apples, tulips, cannabis and potatoes. It's a must-read for anyone with an interest in botany or even anthropology.

-JM

 

[TrustLoveMan]

Sometimes I feel that the manufacturing of DMT in plants is just an evolutionary trait by a wise Mimosa Hostilis tree to get us high through illusory enlightenment in an effort to get us to propagate more DMT plants. It's a scam by a tree that laughs at our intelligence and toys with our heads to ensure its own survival. There is no sense to make of the experience because that's the plants trick - keep dropping those breadcrumbs and Hansel and Gretel will keep coming as they think they are getting closer to enlightenment or whatever they are looking for.

If you're interested in an in-depth exploration of plants' self-serving influence on human behavior and their 'intelligent' coevolution with humans, I highly recommend the book The Botany of Desire by Michael Pollan. It describes this scenario exactly using four common plants as examples: apples, tulips, cannabis and potatoes. It's a must-read for anyone with an interest in botany or even anthropology.

-JM

I think I'll DL the movie, lol.
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The Botany of Desire: A Plant's-Eye View of the World is a 2001 nonfiction book by journalist Michael Pollan. The book was used as the basis for The Botany of Desire, a two-hour program broadcast by PBS.

This work explores the nature of domesticated plants from the dual perspective of humans and the plants themselves. Pollan presents case studies that mirror four types of human desires that are reflected in the way that we selectively grow, breed, and genetically engineer our plants. The apple reflects the desire of sweetness, the tulip beauty, marijuana intoxication, and the potato control.

Pollan narrates his own experience with each of the plants, which he then intertwines with an exploration into their social history. Each section presents an element of human domestication, or the "human bumblebee" as Pollan calls us. The stories range from the true story of Johnny Appleseed to Pollan's first-hand research with sophisticated marijuana hybrids in Amsterdam to the paradigm-shifting possibilities of genetically engineered potatoes.
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