Error on Lextek guide? + welcome me

[beefrendang]

Hi. Firstly, we need to address the error on the Lextek A/B guide where is warns not to use with acacia and then precedes to use acacia.
Essay. I use random and hope for the best, i just cracked a large jar using too much lye, luckily it was in a second bowl of cool water; only slightly leaked. It's my 6th extraction of the same 200g of root because half a year ago i used kerosine/parrafin... NOPE. I am using diggers shellite this time ("naptha" ), 16 hour freeze but no clouds. i will quickly put through a hand press coffee maker with a paper filter and hopefuly the naptha will cool enough for crystals to remain or some may be left in the tin.
Back when i added acetone to the kerosine it went cloudy at the bottom so i decanted and dropped the clouds on some ciggies, smoked: I didnt feel anything. the neighbors have some acacia i havnt tried yet, maybe tonight will be the night all the assassins creed will pay off...
Did you just read this? Thanks wow!

 

[Hyper Turtle]

Yeah on the wiki, there are some outdated things. I assume the Lextek was originally using Acacia, then a number of people had trouble with it, so a warning was added to the page, without actually altering the tek. Personally i've never extracted from Acacias, so i don't know why.

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About the clouds, you don't expect them after the freeze, you expect them in early stage of freezing. After 16h, if the precipitation worked, you expect clear solvent with some crystals on the bottom and possibly sides of your glass container.

If there's no crystals, there's not enough DMT in the solvent. You could then try to evaporate (or better yet, distill) off eg. half the solvent, then go for freeze precip again. This is actually where the cloud part comes in - your solvent has perfect saturation when blowing at it makes clouds briefly appear.

Of course if there's no DMT at all (which is a possibility when you use unknown wild materials), nothing will help.

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You added acetone to the kerosine? That makes no sense

I get it though, things are worded too sparingly there:

1 get juice from the grass and add NaOH to raise ph to around 13
3 add petroleum ( or some other cheap alternative solvent ) and shake vigorously
4 put solvent layer in container with vinegar and water and shake vigorously
5 evaporate vinegar/water mix and add acetone with sodium carbonate

Hey mate, I'm doing this as we speak from kerosine. Can you let me know if yours worked?
Also instead of vinegar im hoping mixing the kerosine with water and acetone can be extracted and basified with sod carbonate. Sound good? Here's a link to the project if you can check it out!

Freebase Extraction from Paraffin to be Baseified Again - Welcome discussion - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

Cheers, A.

Between 4) and 5), the vinegar water has to be separated from the solvent. The water is then evaporated in step 5) before converting the resulting DMT acetate to freebase using sodium carbonate and acetone.

This last conversion in itself is a slight bit more involved than just adding acetone and sodcarb. Here's how to do it (works for acetate as well, might yield oily dmt that never fully crystallises though): Fumarates to Freebase Conversion TEK - DMT-Nexus Wiki

 

[beefrendang]

Between 4) and 5), the vinegar water has to be separated from the solvent. The water is then evaporated in step 5) before converting the resulting DMT acetate to freebase using sodium carbonate and acetone.

downwardsfromzero says "just wash the kerosine with water 5 times, extract and base", this is the same right (if not...)?

Surely there's a faster way to get baked and see some alians?

Does anyone know a formula to find the best temperature for acetone kerosine separation?

Just wash the kerosene with water a few times. This means adding water in an amount no greater than one fifth of the volume of kerosene, shake, allow to clear, then decant off the water. Doing this with three lots of fresh - preferably distilled or de-ionized - water should suffice. >This will only work if the kerosene is free from particulate matter, i.e. strain the bark off meticulously first.<

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... sodium carbonate and acetone mixed with dmt acetate salt will both base and separate(?), will the dmt be in the powder or the acetone which i can pour off and evaporate? I feel like this is what i did when i put the milky acetone i made on the cigarette i smoked to no effect, maybe due to SNRI medication.
Thanks for your help, I'll leave it at this.
Edit: I poured off most naphtha and back in freezer then will air dry the small floating white stuff of which disappeared… I can’t wait to update you one day even though it seems nobody else will read this. I hope my meds don’t dull the effect cos I might waste 100mg in one puff and not feel anything. Edit: a source says consider discontinuing as opposed to definitely discontinuing for non tryptamines.
Edit: maybe I did feel smthn earlier very delayed and short when I mentioned the cloudy acetone dripped on the cigs, it was like nothing in my periferal vision mattered anymore and the colours infront of me became more hdr with a green well watered look as the smoking environment I had did and I operated like I wasn’t obsessing over the last minute of life, only lasting a minute but super subtle…. Sussy baka
Edit: feeling was probably just the Chinese tea leaf cigarette.

 

[Hyper Turtle]

I'm very uneducated about prescription medications and their interactions with DMT, as i have never taken any. I know there's others with a lot of knowledge about that, and i hope somebody may chime in.

I'm pretty sure SNRI would be incompatible with harmalas (i know SSRI are), so aya-/ana-/pharma-huasca, and changa, are probably not an option while you're on them.

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... sodium carbonate and acetone mixed with dmt acetate salt will both base and separate(?), will the dmt be in the powder or the acetone which i can pour off and evaporate?

- DMT acetate mixed with sodium carbonate and a few drops of water into a paste consistency, converts it to freebase.
- Then you have to let it dry completely. Then you break it up into little chunks / powder.
- When you have the dry DMT/sodcarb chunky powder, you add (dry) acetone. The freebase will dissolve in the acetone, the sodium carbonate mostly won't. You mix well, then you use a coffee filter to get the acetone without the solids. You repeat this with fresh acetone at least 2 more times.
- Then you evaporate the acetone. You can add some plant matter to to the loaded acetone if you want to make enhanced leaf you can smoke. Make sure the acetone has evaporated completely before you smoke the leaf - in my experience, residual acetone can dull or even suppress the trip.

I don't know if a cigarette or joint works, afaik you should get your dose in quickly when smoking only DMT. So a bong might be a better option.

If you don't dry the paste completely, or if your acetone has water in it, you will dissolve significant amounts of the sodium carbonate that will end up in your product. I don't know if that would be a health hazard, at the very least it will throw off the weight. It's certainly undesirable.

Speaking of weight, please don't start with 100mg DMT when you're using a method that gets most of the dose into your lungs in one toke, like a bong or an efficient vape. Start with 20mg or less. If it's not enough, increase by 5-10mg next time. Until you find your dose.

 

[beefrendang]

Earlier I said I added too much lye and the glass cracked slightly… well I just kicked over the bowl it was in and two litres soak the carpet currently.
My second precip has two tiny fragments (first one on a refreeze), it’s been out for a while and blowing on it made a new one floating on top that will probably disappear. Might drop acetone in it to see if that drops out a chunk that I can scoop up.
100ml of naptha in a cube shape is too much for me. I’ll use a pipette to scrounge any and start titrating off my medication or ask a friend to test it for me.

 

[Hyper Turtle]

Uhm, ok.

 

[downwardsfromzero]

Earlier I said I added too much lye and the glass cracked slightly… well I just kicked over the bowl it was in and two litres soak the carpet currently.
My second precip has two tiny fragments (first one on a refreeze), it’s been out for a while and blowing on it made a new one floating on top that will probably disappear. Might drop acetone in it to see if that drops out a chunk that I can scoop up.
100ml of naptha in a cube shape is too much for me. I’ll use a pipette to scrounge any and start titrating off my medication or ask a friend to test it for me.

Adding acetone will have precisely the opposite effect to what you are hoping. Why are messing around like this? You clearly have no idea what you are doing - no plan, and no understanding of how extraction actually works.

This can be remedied but you'll have to put the effort in. Firstly you're going to have to clean your carpet. (And why the heck did you put the bowl on the floor?)

So, good luck with all that and here's some reading for afterwards.

DMT Extraction teks
Basic Chemistry
DMT Extraction Overview

 

[_Trip_]

I would add you should probably familiarize yourself with active acacia's and grow your own instead of destroying the neighbors acacias. Also acacias don't like their roots destroyed it tends to kill the plant maybe educate yourself on sustainable harvesting.

 

[beefrendang]

It left a taste in my mouth like caramel. Inhaling from a scalpel. Okay it smells like dmt. I didn’t let the crystals dry. The naptha in the freezer has a little snowball! It’s been there for 2 days, too much NaOH? Or maybe I shook the mix too much and didn’t get the stuff closest to the emulsion.
I want to do a/b then salt and defat with kerosine to save naptha, lord tell us why a/b shouldn’t be used with acacia, maybe because it increases freeze time without fat to latch onto which might help too in dilute amounts.
Subtle cev an hour later.

edit: a maybe 4 hours later iv wokken up duloxetine carries many amazing dreams but tonight may have been the edgiest yet.
[MOD EDIT: wall of text removed and sent back.]

 

[Toshido]

Good god this post hurts my eyes. Some sentence structure and paragraphical spacing would be nice.

This belongs in FAQ - Basic Questions but upon further analysis, I don't think you care to follow any directions or read rules. How poorly constructed your IKEA furniture must be. This is the Introduction Essay sub forum and wow what an introduction it is!

Also, you're not only spilling chemicals all over the place that you shouldn't even be using for DMT extraction not to mention soaking it in cigarettes to smoke WHILE taking a medication that you're unsure about mixing it with.

For the sake of further harm reduction I'll put the "known substance interaction" list here.

Even further, judging from the answers you've completed in the questionnaire, you'll probably be banned anyways.

-foul language (when asked about NBOMe compounds your response was "fuck off", and you used that response multiple times
-exhibiting no desire to learn and this low quality post, IMO, does not count
-blatant disregard for harm reduction ( a safe place to smoke DMT and your answer is "anywhere because you'll be unconscious" ) People have died smoking DMT next to sources of water for instance.
-hate speech (You wish your superpower was AIDS) real mature
-for about 30 questions your answer was "." and then 4 hours later you came back to answer more, if you did any reading at all, you'd notice the questions do not end, it's just a way for you to learn

QUESTION

Is HDPE safe to use in an extraction that uses commonly found petrochemical non-polar solvents?

ANSWER

im gonna come back to this

Yeah. You should. But I doubt you're even using the proper PPE if any at all anyways.

It doesn't matter if you're joking or not, this place doesn't vibe with that.

Honestly, we should sticky this thread and call it "What not to be, how not to act."

I apologize for being so harsh, and I wish you a more positive and more serious journey if you continue to dabble in extractions using volatile chemicals in unsafe settings. Maybe one day you'll take that journey more seriously when you are ready to become humble, respectful, and more open to learning, sharing, and expanding.