estimating dose??

[redlightsflash]

I want to estimate 10-20 mg, no more. I am not trying to breakthrough, only experience visuals and some other mild effects. How much powdered DMT is in this range? That is, can you relate it to the size of something else? Like the size of an eraser maybe?

Thanks......

 

[Eden]

Eyeballing is never a good idea. You will carry any stress due to thoughts of over calculation into your trip. That being said, eraser size is nearer 50-60mg. 20mg is decently tiny.

 

[d*l*b]

The last time I eyeballed a dose I blasted off with somewhere around 200mg (I weighed the same batch later on) expecting to dose 50mg. This was one of the most terrifying experiences I have ever had.

Crystal density can vary enormously – get a scale to avoid unexpected experiences!

 

[hyperspacing]

Not all dmt weighs the same. ebay has milligram scales around 30 bucks. Before swim bought a scale he loaded what he thought was a nice full dose of his latest extractions yeild. Ill never know how big that dose was but it was easily the most unpleasant experience swim has ever had. Lol needless to say swim bought a scale after that. Now with changa its a diffrent story eyeballing it is part of the fun. -goodluck I hope it works out.

 

[SnozzleBerry]

Personally, I only eyeball my doses whether it's freebase or changa. Thinking about numbers or weights leads to expectations pre-trip, imo, and that's the last thing you want. I find that with dmt, as acceptance is already key, just loading up your smoking/vaping device with a small, medium, or large dose is the least mentally involved (and distracting) method. You can always mediate your intake through your hits and the size of your inhales. I have one of the great, cheap ebay scales, but I only use it for measuring %yield and changa materials. When it comes to smoking, I just load it up and let it rip; that's been my method since day 1 and it's never let me down. Occasionally it can surprise you, but this is spice; when doesn't it?

peace
SB

 

[Eden]

I agree, weighing is a waste when changa is involved. It's quite easy to gauge your hits. Just another reason changa is the best smoking method, not that anyone needs more convincing.

 

[redlightsflash]

I didnt know ebay had scales so cheap. I was looking and the cheapest I found accurate to 1 mg was $60, which is expensive imo (especially considering I have two freakin 0.1g scales).

I'm gonna measure 100mg as accurately and carefully as I can with my 100mg scale. From there I'll just take a tiny fraction. The problem is I don't know if I am smoking incorrectly or I don't have enough. I get at most one toke, and its not a huge one, and it has produced no effects.

I'll check out ebay. What's the name or source of your ebay scales?

 

[azrael]

read somewhere that fluffy dmt freebase when just barely sprinkled across a dime is about 50mg, but I have no idea how accurate that really is. to get it fluffy dissolve in a solvent, evap on a flat surface, scrape up with a razor, chop it up a bunch too. I don't know how long it stays consistent in density because of melting and air exposure, but it could be good enough the day of. eventually you'll get an eye for it, but as said in a post above everything varies and the tiniest difference can be a big deal. buy a scale or be prepared.

the problem with taking a fraction of ~100mg is you don't know where your scale is rounding off at: it could be a fraction of 50mg or 150mg, different every time you try a new pile. the scale might not be sensitive enough to notice a change of less than .1g. consistency in crystal size is probably the key to "accurate" eyeballing.

 

[Eden]

Scales accurate to .1g will have a little play and will not be precise at measuring that .1g, as azrael mentioned.

Measure out a full gram and then divide that up.

 

[gammagore]

The problem is I don't know if I am smoking incorrectly or I don't have enough. I get at most one toke, and its not a huge one, and it has produced no effects.

Take another toke then

I'll check out ebay. What's the name or source of your ebay scales?

search "0.001 scale", jewelry diamond scale is what they are called.

 

[sigmundfreuid]

SWIM recommends a more expensive scale and more accurate scale, Jennings Mack 2mg accuracy scales
its like 100 $ with shipping generally or cheaper in the states . Its quite accurate .

 

[crexx21]

SWIM has found .001 gr jewely scale for $50 on http://www.scales-n-tools.com/index...ducts_id=525&zenid=q7321gap6qhifq2maigha7bv44

-it comes with a nice carrying case and tweezers with $8 for delivery

 

[gibran2]

You can get this one for $23.12 with free shipping:

----- 0.001g scale

 

[sigmundfreuid]

Swim was gonna buy that one but read too many bad reviews, heard about the mack 20 and its great ,worth every penny,
supper accurate except when you use the stupid weighting cup

 

[gibran2]

Swim was gonna buy that one but read too many bad reviews, heard about the mack 20 and its great ,worth every penny,
supper accurate except when you use the stupid weighting cup

It’s actually not a bad scale – at least the one I have. It’s usually accurate (or at least repeatable) to +/- 1mg. For our purposes (weighing things under 50mg or so) it’s adequate.

 

[SnozzleBerry]

Swim was gonna buy that one but read too many bad reviews, heard about the mack 20 and its great ,worth every penny,
supper accurate except when you use the stupid weighting cup

It’s actually not a bad scale – at least the one I have. It’s usually accurate (or at least repeatable) to +/- 1mg. For our purposes (weighing things under 50mg or so) it’s adequate.

Agreed. I too have this scale and for its price and reliability (at least in my experience) it'd be pretty hard to beat. I've had mine for over a year at this point and find it to be exactly what I need for measuring various extractions and whatnot. I think someone (I believe it was 69ron) had problems with this type of scale, he got like two shoddy ones, but I also know of several others who have this scale and are thoroughly happy with it.

 

[redlightsflash]

Scales accurate to .1g will have a little play and will not be precise at measuring that .1g, as azrael mentioned.

Measure out a full gram and then divide that up.

Yeah I know. For what its worth, I didn't bother doing this, didn't seem like a worthy method. Looking at my entire supply of (now) 300mg+, I am probably using 10-15 mg. Put it this way - I did an extraction from 50g of MHRB and I've probably dosed 15 times and I still have a LOT left. I'm starting to get a feel for it and I had some good results with just getting a buzz going (which was certainly really enjoyable, but not all I'm looking for).

Gibran2 - thank you for the scale link. I just ordered with express shipping to get it within a reasonable amount of time (air mail can take 3 weeks).