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sleepypelican
Rising Star
nice list.
heres one ya missed though
Mucuna pruriens
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i can vouch for this one. The L-dopa content has an effect for sure not to mention the nicotine, DMT, 5-Meo-DMT, 5HtP .
heres one ya missed though
Mucuna pruriens
Mucuna pruriens - Wikipedia
i can vouch for this one. The L-dopa content has an effect for sure not to mention the nicotine, DMT, 5-Meo-DMT, 5HtP .
Pup Tentacle
lettuce
Thanks for reading... I've been a friend of LSD for a very long time, but hadn't tried MDMA until about a year a go having had, up until now, a grand total of 3 MDMA experiences, 2 of which have included LSD in the mix.
The most recent combo experience was absolutely beautiful. Very helpful, very kind.
I plan to give it another go soon and have a few questions.
I'd like to increase the amount of LSD, but the amount of MDMA consumed during my last experience seemed perfect.
1) In your experience...does one need to increase the amount of MDMA as the amount of LSD increases?
2) Do you have an opinion on that ratio?
3) Do you have any helpful hints or other thought to share regarding this combo? (please do
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Thanks for your help in advance!
Many Blessing and Much Love
The most recent combo experience was absolutely beautiful. Very helpful, very kind.
I plan to give it another go soon and have a few questions.
I'd like to increase the amount of LSD, but the amount of MDMA consumed during my last experience seemed perfect.
1) In your experience...does one need to increase the amount of MDMA as the amount of LSD increases?
2) Do you have an opinion on that ratio?
3) Do you have any helpful hints or other thought to share regarding this combo? (please do
)Thanks for your help in advance!
Many Blessing and Much Love
Al-Wasi
Rising Star
All I can say about candy flipping is that I love it though I haven't in years. It'd nice when u want a LSD trip with no mindfuck at all. Yet super intense visuals
I always dose the mdma first around 125mg and a hour into the roll I drop the LSD. It sets the tone of the experience when your on MDMA.
Enjoy. Reading this brings back a great experience I had doing just this. I've never taken the LSD prior to MDMA though I bear its a different experience althogehter.
How have you done it in the past I'd like to know?
I always dose the mdma first around 125mg and a hour into the roll I drop the LSD. It sets the tone of the experience when your on MDMA.
Enjoy. Reading this brings back a great experience I had doing just this. I've never taken the LSD prior to MDMA though I bear its a different experience althogehter.
How have you done it in the past I'd like to know?
I like 200-300ug of LSD with an average 100-125mg dose of MDMA when I do it then a top up in the 50-75mg range. That seems to hit just about perfectly. I usually drop em together so they peak more or less simultaneously then take the top up after the peak(s) wear down.
Honestly though I prefer mescaline, it gives me all the trippiness, all the love, and something much more authentic in there too, I like to call it the hand of god at my back lol. It also lasts longer. 8)
Honestly though I prefer mescaline, it gives me all the trippiness, all the love, and something much more authentic in there too, I like to call it the hand of god at my back lol. It also lasts longer. 8)
Pup Tentacle
lettuce
The first time I ate them both together... about 50mg of MDMA and half a hit of strongish blotter.
The second time I ate 1 hit of LSD, followed by 85mg of MDMA and hour and a half later, another hit of LSD 2 hours after that and another 33 mg of MDMA 10 minutes later. IT ROCKED.
As far as the mescaline goes. I too am a big fan. Just happened to be in the position to try this combo a couple times and wanted to make the most of it.
The second time I ate 1 hit of LSD, followed by 85mg of MDMA and hour and a half later, another hit of LSD 2 hours after that and another 33 mg of MDMA 10 minutes later. IT ROCKED.
As far as the mescaline goes. I too am a big fan. Just happened to be in the position to try this combo a couple times and wanted to make the most of it.
Alpha-lipoic acid prevents 3,4-methylenedioxy-methamphetamine (MDMA)-induced neurotoxicity - PubMed
A single administration of 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA, 20 mg/kg, i.p.), induced significant hyperthermia in rats and reduced 5-hydroxytryptamine (5-HT) content and [3H]paroxetine-labeled 5-HT transporter density in the frontal cortex, striatum and hippocampus by 40-60% 1 week later...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Ascorbic acid prevents 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA)-induced hydroxyl radical formation and the behavioral and neurochemical consequences of the depletion of brain 5-HT - PubMed
MDMA-induced 5-HT neurotoxicity has been proposed to involve oxidative stress due to increased formation of hydroxyl radicals. Recently, MDMA-induced 5-HT neurotoxicity has been shown to be accompanied by a suppression of behavioral and neurochemical responses to a subsequent injection of MDMA...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Erowid MDMA Vault : MDMA & Antioxidants
Do Antioxidants Protect Against MDMA Hangover, Tolerance, And Neurotoxicity? December 2001, by Earth Erowid.
www.erowid.org
nexalizer
Rising Star
Ufostrahlen said:Alpha-lipoic acid prevents 3,4-methylenedioxy-methamphetamine (MDMA)-induced neurotoxicity - PubMed
A single administration of 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA, 20 mg/kg, i.p.), induced significant hyperthermia in rats and reduced 5-hydroxytryptamine (5-HT) content and [3H]paroxetine-labeled 5-HT transporter density in the frontal cortex, striatum and hippocampus by 40-60% 1 week later...Ascorbic acid prevents 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA)-induced hydroxyl radical formation and the behavioral and neurochemical consequences of the depletion of brain 5-HT - PubMed
MDMA-induced 5-HT neurotoxicity has been proposed to involve oxidative stress due to increased formation of hydroxyl radicals. Recently, MDMA-induced 5-HT neurotoxicity has been shown to be accompanied by a suppression of behavioral and neurochemical responses to a subsequent injection of MDMA...
So.. eat oranges half an hour before MDMA, then have broccoli/kale/pepper salad, and top it off with a blueberry/strawberry/kiwi dessert ?
A good idea from a scientific viewpoint.nexalizer said:
Also useful:
List of antioxidants in food - Wikipedia
And in case of (rare!) Ecstasy-induced hyponatremia:
Pup Tentacle
lettuce
Thanks some more... I've actually gotten a number of supplements (including the ones listed) in an effort to make things better for my brain and body.
I think today is the day as well. The better half is headed out for the latter half of the day and I have all my chores and work done. :twisted:
I think today is the day as well. The better half is headed out for the latter half of the day and I have all my chores and work done. :twisted:
Happy tripping!
Shanghigher
Burning the locals, abusing the tourists, terrifyi
I'd say do them at the same time, around 150mg of MDMA with some to top up later, and 200ug (ish) LSD, rising if you are in a particularly good setting (200ug at festival, 300ug if somewhere more private).
You'll rush on the MDMA before the LSD hits, but it won't be too far behind. More MDMA perhaps later on as the LSD could easily roll on for a few hours afterwards. That said, it'll last for the peak of the LSD, and you might want to just chill for the second half.
I have to also agree with the mescaline people here. I don't bother candy flipping any more because I can just have mescaline, which is pretty much the same thing but all together a bit calmer.
You'll rush on the MDMA before the LSD hits, but it won't be too far behind. More MDMA perhaps later on as the LSD could easily roll on for a few hours afterwards. That said, it'll last for the peak of the LSD, and you might want to just chill for the second half.
I have to also agree with the mescaline people here. I don't bother candy flipping any more because I can just have mescaline, which is pretty much the same thing but all together a bit calmer.
Infectedstyle
I compulsively post from time to time
In response to different MDMA topics popping up on the Nexus. And considering that I regard most Nexus members to have high standards for knowing a substance thorougly before using it.
I was wondering if someone with a broader array of experience with the substance could tell me if they noted different types of experiences arising from use of different sources of MDMA. And if some of them have turned out negative. If there are major differences with different types of ingestion (quidding,oral, etc.) Alternatively, is set & setting the main cause for slightly challenging experiences.
I have personally acquired 2 grams from a different type of MDMA (rocks as opposed to off-white powder) and have noted anxiety in the form of chest discomfort arise from dosing over 50mg. Granted, set & setting may not have been quite ideal for letting out emotions which I have a hard time in verbalizing anyway.
In kind regards, me
I was wondering if someone with a broader array of experience with the substance could tell me if they noted different types of experiences arising from use of different sources of MDMA. And if some of them have turned out negative. If there are major differences with different types of ingestion (quidding,oral, etc.) Alternatively, is set & setting the main cause for slightly challenging experiences.
I have personally acquired 2 grams from a different type of MDMA (rocks as opposed to off-white powder) and have noted anxiety in the form of chest discomfort arise from dosing over 50mg. Granted, set & setting may not have been quite ideal for letting out emotions which I have a hard time in verbalizing anyway.
In kind regards, me
expandaneum
Rising Star
I just noticed the hangover got worse and worse over time:grin:
How do you know your MDMA is clean ?
How do you know your MDMA is clean ?
Infectedstyle
I compulsively post from time to time
expandaneum said:
I suspect it might not be. I am mighty curious if the stuff they use at MAPS has a totally different effect because of labgrade purity. Since they don't seem to notice any dangerous side effects or negatives from using MDMA.
I think I may be immune to hangovers. Rarely have any except on weed
:shock:
expandaneum
Rising Star
just have it tested
Also there are negative side effect's the hangover being one of them. IMO the experience is sometimes good and sometimes you think o is this it, or anxiety.
Just remember it will never be the same as the first few times, those where your golden tickets.
I used to have this to, but now i don't take m anymore because it will cost me two days to get better. This with the decreased effects is just not worth it.
Also there are negative side effect's the hangover being one of them. IMO the experience is sometimes good and sometimes you think o is this it, or anxiety.
Just remember it will never be the same as the first few times, those where your golden tickets.
I used to have this to, but now i don't take m anymore because it will cost me two days to get better. This with the decreased effects is just not worth it.
Infectedstyle
I compulsively post from time to time
expandaneum said:
That just makes me sad. But to be fair, the large array of psychedelic drugs will hopefully make up for this flaw of MDMA.
I am marvelled at the intensity of this drug from this newer batch. Someone said to me that whenever you use a new source of MDMA your body reacquints itself and produces stronger effects. I think I may just be feeling some of that.
Hell no that i'm getting it tested. Haha. I payed good money for this stuff
Maybe later.
expandaneum
Rising Star
yes and your life was for free, so why would you:d
anyways i believe mdma is mdma no adjusting no connecting to your new rock.
Infectedstyle
I compulsively post from time to time
Aye. I value ur opinion. With such a profile picture who coulden't, right!