Exhaustion from contemplating the multiverse

[Hyperdimensional Cuttlefish]

I have been working with the spice in an effort to wrap my little brain around string theory, the brane, and the infinite probabilities inherent in this conceptual system.

It is a draining endeavour, and I have tried to construct a psychedelic analog to use visual spatial memory and offload some of the more...abstract... parts of the idea and make chunks out of it.

Hoo, all I got so far goes like this;

I consider "normal" space as a spiderweb in 4 dimensions. Each intersection of silk strands is another branch in the probability chain and this spins off another strand to another web, which is another link to a different set of probabilities ad infinitum.

Black holes are a singularity at their center, so the strands collect towards and collapse in a superdense tangle of time, events and probability. At the core of this collapse, is the nexus of another brane, or possibly many that intersect at this point.

This focal point is like taking many layers of plastic wrap and pushing a hot spike into them, melding them together so they are fused, and thus the branes have separate leaves still, but are one piece of plastic at the same time.

From here I can't seem to reconcile this with the Newtonian world we operate in on a daily basis and it fatigues me to work on a construct that bridges them. I guess that's unified field theory huh? This shit has been bothering me for way too long, and I am not sure that our consciousness doesn't monkey with the real world on some level of probability.

I suppose that would be magic or alchemy at the very least? Jeebus. Magic is improbable, but extrapolation of probabilities means its possible? Do these meta-strands ever overlap in a concrete testable way in the Newtonian world? They do on quantum levels, and there are some scary/fascinating things happening with research today.

If there was some sort of catalyst to make the probability levels shift such that magic became probable... Well, that is alchemy, isn't it. It makes me come unhinged a bit working on this stuff, but it's the point of humanity to do so...I think?

Thoughts anyone? Or am I howling into the abyss, just hoping/fearing it may scream back at me some day...And on that day have I lost my mind?

 

[moyshekapoyre]

The latter, maybe.

Focus on the hear and now. I think at the end of the day, that's what matters.

Maybe if you like this theorizing, continue with it for a set amount of time (say, 3 months max) and then at that point re-evaluate its usefulness in your life.

 

[vardlokkur]

Theorizing for me comes in short spans. I usually conceptualize it into poetry; life and reality are far to abstract in my opinion, to be able to truly comprehend with our current physiology.

But as far as reconciling your ideas with Newtonian physics, keep in mind the newtonian physics seem to me at least to be based more off of human observation, and not to be particularly parallel with reality as it entirely is. Our physics, especially in application are based of their effectiveness in engineering. As far as quantum and astro-physics are concerned, there are far too many things that enter the equation.

Take our solar system as an example. For a long time, and you will still learn in an entry level astronomy class, that space is a vacuum devoid of "air" or particles. But clearly the sun emits bursts of radiation that our magnetosphere appropriately responds to. To me this contradicts the explanation of vacuum space. Also the quantum theories regarding how EVERY object has a magnetic pull of some minute scale on every other object (even individual atoms, or ESPECIALLY individual atoms in the case of solid objects) are a long ways from being totally understood in a way that can be accurately calculated within universally applicable means.

Even our understanding of light and waveform are rather elementary and fractional. We teach that many objects in space emit no light, but the quantum model rejects this, since any energized atom would emit some (extremely immeasurable) amount of light.

I'm not completely acquainted with the implications of this newly talked about M-Theory that claims to bridge the link between quantum and relative physics. My intuition, especially while in deep contemplation through tryptamines seems to put a higher faith in the "as above, so below" philosophy that is present in most occult/mythic models.

But searching for a CONCRETE universal law is dangerous territory. Many men and women have gone mad trying to understand the chaos that underlies reality.

The advice above me is pretty good as well. Make a number of conclusions and then re-evaluate them at a later time when your mind has had a chance to assimilate things sub-consciously. I tend to only write things down when I absolutely HAVE TO, when it is such a heavy and mind-boggling concept that I completely need to be rid of it in order to gain conscious freedom; that's when I take the pen to paper and let it sit for months until I feel compelled to ask myself "What the hell was I thinking?"

 

[tele]

I'll spare myself from the (most likely)impossible task of analyzing "multiverse" and just go with the flow. ...And smoke more. Witnessing is the only thing I see possible when journeying. To put it into a theory or even try to analyze it... I'll spare myself as I know what we are dealing with isn't made for my human brain to analyze.

Theorizing for me comes in short spans. I usually conceptualize it into poetry; life and reality are far to abstract in my opinion, to be able to truly comprehend with our current physiology.

like this

 

[Hyperdimensional Cuttlefish]

THIS is why I posted the above. I love the dialog here. Thanks guys

 

[toppy]

The way you explain the dimensions as a spider web and the beginning as a black hole is basically the same philosophy i have.
I get mental exhaustion too, and sometimes it gets extremely irritating so i know where your coming from, i also see the physical brain as a spiderpuzzle which all of the information is already there in spirit but we have to put the pieces together in order to jump the strands of web.
As exhasuting and challenging i find the mental side of spiritual development, i see it as a blessing and the challenge of life, and i do find that the more information you store, the less you have to think in order to react, working things out as a vibrational calculator seems to be more common.

 

[vardlokkur]

"If time is space, than history is a cobweb." Terence Mckenna :d

If you've never heard of Peter Carroll and Chaos Magick, you may be interested in his theories into physics. They're interesting to say the least.

REBEL PHYSICS.

Your spiderweb notion is fairly accurate. I've read that the superposition and entanglement theories of quantum physics imply that every atom is connected with another through some form of causation. To put it simply, when you look at a star in the night sky, you are entangled with beams of light that were emitted from said star how-ever many millions of years it took for that light to reach you. More interesting is that the energy emitted by you can be quantumly entangled with an alien creature that happens to look off in our stars direction MILLIONS OF YEARS IN THE FUTURE. It's not difficult to imagine, but it is difficult to accept. Though the idea makes me hysterical with laughter to be honest.

Something I used to consider, just for the sake of wild speculation, is that the stars we see could infact be our own star, millions of years in the future, and we are seeing ourselves in a sense. Most probably wrong, but then again, we could be looking at stars that have already exploded and whose particles we are comprised of. :shock:

 

[Hyperdimensional Cuttlefish]

Do you mean spacetime? There's a big difference between 4 spatial dimensions + n time dimensions and 4-dimensional spacetime.

Also it would help to know how you define "multiverse." For instance, what tier do you ontologically countenance, perhaps in the sense of Max Tegmark's hierarchy of multiverses?
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Probability talk on a fundamental ontological level makes some presuppositions about a particular wavefunction theory (namely an indeterminate one). I don't think this type of metaphorical thinking is more conducive to an understanding of fundamental physics, though it is indeed aesthetically thrilling to think about under the influence of psychedelics =)

How is time as a normal component of reality different from 4d space-time? I am making assumptions re: wave particle theory, but I thought this was accepted groundwork for conservative quantum mechanics? Hmm, I need to do more homework I guess. I shall return!!

 

[Hyperdimensional Cuttlefish]

More interesting is that the energy emitted by you can be quantumly entangled with an alien creature that happens to look off in our stars direction MILLIONS OF YEARS IN THE FUTURE. It's not difficult to imagine, but it is difficult to accept... Something I used to consider, just for the sake of wild speculation, is that the stars we see could infact be our own star, millions of years in the future, and we are seeing ourselves in a sense.

Ohhh fuuuuu....

That would explain some of the crazy "looking at myself/the world with alien eyes" phenomena I get every time I dig deep into spiceland. I like it. I will use these new lenses next big session I undertake and see what happens just for fun.

Communicans Obliterans.

 

[astralspice]

''Black holes are a singularity at their center, so the strands collect towards and collapse in a superdense tangle of time, events and probability. At the core of this collapse, is the nexus of another brane, or possibly many that intersect at this point.''

My younger brother is very in tune with his mind and astral projection had been something he's beed doing since he was about 6 until now, 19. He's able to basicly enter the phase state at any given time (at work, on the bus,etc). He enters black holes while in the astral plane and says that on the other side he finds himself in a meadow where all the deceased friends/family are waiting. His dog is there, strange ppl that appear black and white wearing suits and other unexplainable things including ''bad'' entities.

It's definitely not far fetched to think that on the other side of a black hole is the inorganic spirit world that surrounds our everyday life.