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It seems lately that every time I consume the mushroom, it just makes me feel sick and left wishing I had done something else with my time. The whole time I just get nauseated and on the verge of purging, however in my past experiences I have never once gotten any serious discomfort with much larger doses then what I have been using recently. What could be the cause of this?
 
this started to happen to me with ayahuasca also. I get that in cycles..where it used to never even make me nauseated it ended up making me sick and dizzy with a headache and feeling tired for 24 hours at times..then other periods I can drink without problem.

I just stopped drinking for a while and only smoked DMT and used it sublingual..I dunno what that is about but it seems to have stopped now..for now. So now I drink.

Oh well.
 
You might try making tea. Many people get a reaction to the chitin in mushrooms. Try grinding them up, letting them soak in enough lemon juice for the powder to all get moist, add a mug full of hot water, bring to sub simmer for 10-15 minutes, strain, run a little more hot water through to get all the goodies.
 
nicechrisman said:
You might try making tea. Many people get a reaction to the chitin in mushrooms. Try grinding them up, letting them soak in enough lemon juice for the powder to all get moist, add a mug full of hot water, bring to sub simmer for 10-15 minutes, strain, run a little more hot water through to get all the goodies.
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This is actually my preferred way of ingesting. Even with tea though they have been bothering me and making me sick. I wish I had a pure psilocybin to see if its that thats making me feel sick or something else thats in the mushrooms. Unfortunately that is not really as easy to do as with DMT.
 
This same thing happened to me. I used to be a frequent user of mushrooms. My first trip was awesome and I didn't feel sick at all. But every trip after that, the sickness got progressively worse until I would find myself curled up in the bathroom in cold sweats, vomiting and in pain. From talking to other people, it seems to be a frequent occurrence. I haven't used mushrooms in over a year because of how unpleasant I feel physically when I take them. I've tried everything from eating them straight, to grinding them up in a coffee grinder and mixing them with honey, to making tea and filtering with a coffee filter. It makes me sick no matter what my method.
 
Hove you tried ginger or maybe having a few puffs of some weed?

That sucks! I've never had more than slight nausea with shrooms. The worst I get is the gag-reflex from eating fresh ones.

Still worth it.8)
 
The problem may be overuse. Take a break brah. Don't force yourself to take shrooms. The next time you take it, take it because you have that undeniable urge to do it, and you feel really good about going to that place. Make it your reward or something.
 
Apoc said:
The problem may be overuse. Take a break brah. Don't force yourself to take shrooms. The next time you take it, take it because you have that undeniable urge to do it, and you feel really good about going to that place. Make it your reward or something.
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my thoughts exactly
 
I was thinking over use as well and am planning on not using them for a while now. And the MJ doesn't help thats how bad it gets. I smoke to take care of every day stomach issues, but smoking does nothing for my stomach when I'm sick from those.
 
What are your everyday stomach issues may I ask? People with IBS or gastrointestinal troubles, even people without this can get sickly from the mushroom. This happens to me. It's not that it is psychedelic because every mushroom does this to me. Do regular mushrooms make you feel sick? They are naturally tougher to digest
 
^it happens to me more also..I have inflamatory bowel disease and ayahuasca, cacti and mushrooms can all bother me when I ingest them..mushrooms especially though. A ver concentrated sublingual tincture of the mushrooms would be good in this case.

At least make a filtered tea.
 
Ya I've had this problem too, I had no problem when I first started using them; then it got progressively worse with sick feeling and very weird trips. I stopped partaking for just about two years. I only just found out that I can do them again, and enjoy it. I owe this to learning the ethanol extraction. :thumb_up:
 
jamie said:
^it happens to me more also..I have inflamatory bowel disease and ayahuasca, cacti and mushrooms can all bother me when I ingest them..mushrooms especially though. A ver concentrated sublingual tincture of the mushrooms would be good in this case.

At least make a filtered tea.
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jamie having yoghurt everyday can heal a lot of issues with the stomach , i don't know if it works for inflamatory bowel disease , yet it does help with lot of issues

best is to make your own youghurt so it can be tastless , since the stores mostly sell sweet youghurt where i live and that hardly effective , only tasteless or pure yoghurt is good for this

best time to take it is after walking up , on an empty stomach

i've done youghurt fasts at times to heal a lot of stomach issues , yet they are not really needed , 2 cups of youghurt in the morning works equally well
 
I am really really not big on yoghurt. I eat unpasturized grass fed aged cheese from organic cows every day that has many times more probiotics than yoghurt does and that does great things for me..Yoghurt has more lactose(which does not agree with me) I think as it is not fermented as long as well aged cheese and often its pasturized, and I really believe that pasturized dairy is not the best thing for humans..a lot of stuff happens when you pasturize dairy. It is one of the foods I still believe to be best consumed raw.

But yeah cultured dairy is feels good to me.

If you are making your own yoghurt than at least you know there is even active culture still in it unlike some store bought stuff..
 
I know that 'Datura' is kind of a dirty word here, but a very low dose (sub-threshold for delerient effects) is a great reminder that atropine is, first and foremost, an anticholinergic.

You could try that. I know of a number of people who use it to fight the nausea associated with ayahuasca, or mushrooms.
 
If you get a messed up stomach you might want to check your "fasting".
I have also had a lot of stomach problems from mushrooms.
What I do is to fast for at least 7hrs before ingestion and also turn the mushrooms into a
fine powder to help the stomach a bit.
I tried the tea once but it took away the body load which is something I like. Might want to try the
tea though, a lot of people seem to like it.
 
Nathanial.Dread said:
I know that 'Datura' is kind of a dirty word here, but a very low dose (sub-threshold for delerient effects) is a great reminder that atropine is, first and foremost, an anticholinergic.

You could try that. I know of a number of people who use it to fight the nausea associated with ayahuasca, or mushrooms.
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It's not a dirty word but datura can be a very dangerous drug and a lot of people have died from it.
When you write about datura it's important to write a disclaimer of it's dangers
and known safe ways of using it.

Maybe you could edit your message before you say "You could try that"😉

Sorry for pointing fingers but datura can really mess people up.
 
There's no danger in consuming 2-3 seeds for the powerful anti-nausea effect it produces. If you're unsure you can control the intake of 2-3 as opposed to a 100, then generally I would say anything discussed here is extremely dangerous for you. You might end up ingesting 300mg harmala 800mg fumarate next time you take pharma if you're that uncareful.
 
John Smith said:
There's no danger in consuming 2-3 seeds for the powerful anti-nausea effect it produces. If you're unsure you can control the intake of 2-3 as opposed to a 100, then generally I would say anything discussed here is extremely dangerous for you. You might end up ingesting 300mg harmala 800mg fumarate next time you take pharma if you're that uncareful.
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Not everybody who reads this forum has looked into safe datura dosage as you have.
That's why I think it's important to include a disclaimer.
 
Good point, I see.

I would also recommend trying essential lemon oil

Essential lemon oil contains beta-pinene, which is a 5-ht3 antagonist.

5-ht3 is responsible for generating the nausea/vomit feelings/actions in your body. And serotonergenic psychedelics are agonists for this receptor. as well as other 5-ht receptors which cause the psychedelic effects.

From reports - reducing the antagonism on the 5-ht3 receptor does not quell the psychedelic effects.

Apparently - through all accounts, 5-10 drops of essential lemon oil (food grade, not fragrance grade) is enough to put a complete stop to the nausea from shrooms, yopo, dmt etc.
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