Extracting right now need help (Cybs' ATB)

[wall-iko]

hello all, finally i started extraction

I found one missing ingredient! the F$#@n Scales... I have no Scales!!!!

come on guis i need help to mesure
30-40g salt
50g of Sodium Hydroxide

plzzz help if someone can tell how much will it be in spoons or something...

HELP!!!:?

 

[cyb]

Yep...when you add the nap and mix it so it 'touches' every part of the black mix...the spice will want to migrate into the nap and stay there...then you pull away the nap from the mix and freeze it.(do this 5-6 times)
The spice can't stay in the nap at very low temps and decides to 'crash out' of the nap and turn into a crystalline form. This will settle on the glass dish and grow over time.
Next day, the nap will have shed all the spice and can be reused if you like.
The crystals will want to melt at room temp, if there is any nap present....so dry them quickly after you pour off the cold nap.
Dry them a lot to evap away any remaining nap...then your done.

 

[wall-iko]

so dmt is still being filtered out from the powder even after adding lye?
meaning if i leave the mix for a day or so, i might get more from it?

 

[cyb]

The lye converts the molecule into a form that the naphtha will pick up (freebase).
You can leave the mix for a while, if you want, but after an hour or so the majority of the spice will be converted...the warmth of the mix helps this along.
By the time you have done all 6 pulls, the mix will be well and truly maximised...

With the addition of the salt...the first two pulls will be the greatest yield and will decrease as you pull more...until it is all taken out of the bark.

 

[wall-iko]

you suggest separating naphta (in my case Zippo fluid) from every pull?
i have only two dishes to store in the freezer :">

 

[cyb]

If you want...you can take all your pulls and store them in a jar or dish...then when you're all done...blow a fan over the jar/dish to evap it down a 1/3...then freeze the lot in one dish.
Or two...up to you.
I do them individually so that each pull is freezing while the next one is being mixed.
Once the spice is residing in the nap...its not going anywhere.
A slow cool down will produce bigger crystals...so you could keep the jar in a fridge while you are preparing the next pull...
Then freeze the lot when you're done.
:thumb_up:

 

[wall-iko]

ok!
I'll start "Step Six" in about 30 minutes (aprox two hours from adding lye)
hope not to fall asleep 1:30 am here :surprised

 

[cyb]

OK...I'll leave you to it...I'm off to bed...
Good luck

 

[Mindlusion]

ok!
I'll start "Step Six" in about 30 minutes (aprox two hours from adding lye)
hope not to fall asleep 1:30 am here :surprised

Don't worry, experience has shown me that the best chemistry is always done at 3am.

the devils hour

 

[endlessness]

If I may... Lets try to make an effort to think that this forum is for everybody,so please:

1- If its a small question, go to the chat or post in the official extraction help thread
2- If you feel the question deserves an own thread, use the thread title to explain what the thread is about, so that others with the same question can find the answer easily.
3- Dont use caps for thread title, you will get the attention that you get, no need to try to stand above others.
4- Post in the appropriate section, such as the FAQ subforum , since this is not a plant research thread.

I hope you take this as a constructive criticism, not just nitpicking. Thank you!

 

[wall-iko]

If I may... Lets try to make an effort to think that this forum is for everybody,so please:

1- If its a small question, go to the chat or post in the official extraction help thread
2- If you feel the question deserves an own thread, use the thread title to explain what the thread is about, so that others with the same question can find the answer easily.
3- Dont use caps for thread title, you will get the attention that you get, no need to try to stand above others.
4- Post in the appropriate section, such as the FAQ subforum , since this is not a plant research thread.

I hope you take this as a constructive criticism, not just nitpicking. Thank you!

Sorry! hope that the little seedling badge on my avatar saves me from being burned in the fire

 

[wall-iko]

added and mixed first 50ml of Non-Polar Solvent

 

[wall-iko]

@cyb "5. Leave for a while until the naphtha separates again. (edit: This has been reported to take an hour or so the first time (occasionally))"

mine separated quite quickly after shaking for a minute or so...

few minutes later

 

[wall-iko]

Here comes the first pull

 

[thoughtkrime]

I have a question
SWIM used A/B(vinegar/ Lye) tek on acacia confusa
simmer with a ph4 solution
strain and repeat twice
combine acidified solution from the different pulls

Basify with lye to ph 14
add naphta stir,
remove naptha
add back to distilled acidified water with a pH of 4 stirr

remove the acidifyed water now containing DMT acetate and possibly NMT acetate

Basify the water+dmt solution back to pH 14 using lye

add naphta

remove naphta

freeze precipitate



NOw the problem, i know right it all sounds awesome until you read this

and the end product is a fine white crystal that looks like is should, smells like it should and well...doesnt melt like it should. It can be lye chemistry wont let that happen. The odd part to me is that SWIM did a defat so really nothing should of been in the acidified water except DMT an perhaps a Little NMT, whats goin on?

 

[wall-iko]

I have a question
SWIM used A/B(vinegar/ Lye) tek on acacia confusa
simmer with a ph4 solution
strain and repeat twice
combine acidified solution from the different pulls

Basify with lye to ph 14
add naphta stir,
remove naptha
add back to distilled acidified water with a pH of 4 stirr

remove the acidifyed water now containing DMT acetate and possibly NMT acetate

Basify the water+dmt solution back to pH 14 using lye

add naphta

remove naphta

freeze precipitate



NOw the problem, i know right it all sounds awesome until you read this

and the end product is a fine white crystal that looks like is should, smells like it should and well...doesnt melt like it should. It can be lye chemistry wont let that happen. The odd part to me is that SWIM did a defat so really nothing should of been in the acidified water except DMT an perhaps a Little NMT, whats goin on?

Dude, I'm doing this for the first time and I will smoke it for the first time ) so I have no idea what's wrong with your mix

 

[thoughtkrime]

yeah thanks any way man but i was more or less peaking in general to every one who views the post

BTW it smokes just fine and have desired results just wont melt...WTF is that about or might it be that its so clean after the wash it just melts so fast it leaves behind a small ash of what it ones was, its like not even ash more like dust...

once again this is asked of the collective if you see this and could help me out thanks, if not then o well!

 

[wall-iko]

#1

 

[wall-iko]

DONE!
it's up to freezer now!
THX for help Cyb!

 

[wall-iko]

12 hours in freezer
sneak peak pics

 

[idesofendeth]

Are you sure Zippo Fluid is completely clean? i was under the assumption that it wasnt.. but then again im a noob, anyone have any idea on this?