Fermenting A.Colubrina Seeds?

[Non Dua Natura]

Hey folks,

I got 50g of Anadenanthera colubrina seeds this morning and intend to do a few different things with them, one of which is fermenting them in the way that some shamans do before turning them into a snuff. I'm assuming it's a pretty basic process to ferment them, but I was wondering if anyone had any advice or experience with this already?

I'm just about to prepare a batch of unfermented, toasted seeds (around 8g) so that I can test the two products seperately and compare the effects. I've already burnt my first batch and was left with a rather unpleasant, almost coffee-ish smelling power after grinding it up, shells and all. Doh! On a side-note, would it be worth testing this burnt product as a snuff? I know bufotenine has a high heat tolerance, but this was 30 minutes in the oven at 220 degress celcius; I'm moderately concerned about this black powder being full of nasties and am erring on the side of caution with this anyway, so I'd appreciate any input.

Cheers!

 

[ntwhtyouknw]

I'd leave the shells out, you can do this without burning on the stove by popping then kinda like popcorn until you can peel the seed coat off easily. I've never fermented them, but I've made snuff this way. Crushing toasted peeled seeds, mixing with water and sodium carb, then hearing on low heat in a stainless steel pot while scraping, drying and powder it.

Leaving the shell on is ok for an extraction.

 

[nen888]

..hey, i wrote in Multi-Alkaoid Endogenous Amines & Yopo/Vilca Divination

there's the old story of Vilca (or Cebil) seeds being smoked by shamans for divination (Schultze & Hoffman) in argentina or bolivia..anyone followed that up since?
..i once ingested 15 Vilca seeds (crushed) from Bolivia with 3g rue..led to very unusual, but visual, maybe bufotenine-like experience..dark & purging,quite theraputic 4hrs approx..but was told by bolivian source, "30 Vilca seeds or more abortifecant.."

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