LoveInTheDream
Rising Star
What they did:
collected a fat, hard grown, 400 gram tip piece of fat, old growth cali bridgesii. This plant had come recommended as being "what they were looking for". This piece was aged for about 4 months, starting in the shade and then moved to full dark.
A tea was made by slicing the cactus into half inch rounds- core, spines, skin and all. These pieces were put on the freezer for 24 hours, pulled out and thawed and refrozen for another 24 hrs. This then went into the blender with 3 oz of 190 proof alcohol, and 2 cups of water. This was blended thoroughly and 250 mg of crushed ascorbic acid was added and the blender was pulsed again to mix. The whole concoction was then refrozen.
The frozen slurry was thawed fully and then dumped into the pressure cooker which was run for a 25 minute cycle. This was then strained through a cotton bandana and again through a 25 micron bubble bag. The resulting concoction was placed in the fridge to settle for 2 days, at which point a blunt tipped needle was used to carefully decant the liquid from the top, which was then refiltered through the 25 micron bag. The solid fats/lipids/gunk from the bottom was left undisturbed and discarded along with as little bit of the liquid as possible.
This was then refrozen for about a week until they were ready to hold ceremony, at which point it was thawed and again decanted and filtered, leaving behind another round of gunk.
At this point it was done.
What happened:
The resulting tea was consumed at 8 pm. On a 7hr empty stomach, half was consumed first and the other half was consumed 15 minutes later. Within 10 minutes strange, dark, animalistic closed-eyed visions began to be mentally inlaid. Not so much closed or open-eyed visuals as they were separate mental occurrences coexisting with regular reality. They managed to keep their stomach settled for about 35/40 minutes before they knew there was no possibility of not puking. Running to the bathroom, everything came out in bitter bursts and torrents.
This is when the extreme body discomfort and over-stimulation began. They smoked a joint of cannabis, blue lotus, lemon balm, pao darco, and tobacco to calm their stomach and nerves. What came next was an incredibly uncomfortable evening of physical discomfort, body tremors, twitching, and relentless over-stimulation. Visuals were mildly interesting, but were over-shadowed by the physical discomfort. Urination burned and hurt, stomach felt bloated and uncomfortable, and the body twitching became uncontrolable and almost spastic, like possessed writhing or mild seizing. The lower half of the body had all night what can best be described as restless leg syndrome, with the hips and legs twitching most of all. There was zero of the spiritual awakening feeling, or phenylethylamine ecstatic joy/glow that they'd come to know from pachanoi excursions.
Eyes were dilated and speedy effects were felt all night, and even when the physical effects began to wane (around 5:30 am) sleep was far from attainable. They finally got 2 hours of sleep from around 9-11, at which point they awoke with a start, still feeling the speedy effects and restless leg issues to this time.
The question:
Were these effects the mescaline? Was it just bridgesii? That's all it is? Why is it so lauded if so? Or was this just a personal reaction? Or was it a mistake that they made in preparation? Or was it the particular plant?
There seemed to be zero shamanistic value to this experience. No insight, no grand visions, no sense of oneness or wonder. There was only discomfort and mild visuals.
As this was their first bridgesii experience they want to know if this is what is to be expected or if they should cull all bridgesii from their garden and focus on pachanoi and peruvianus.
Any help on this path would be greatly appreciated. Their desire to get to know these plants better in ceremony is strong and true, but if that is the bridgesii experience, then they would like to abandon these ambitions and focus elsewhere.
Thank you all.
collected a fat, hard grown, 400 gram tip piece of fat, old growth cali bridgesii. This plant had come recommended as being "what they were looking for". This piece was aged for about 4 months, starting in the shade and then moved to full dark.
A tea was made by slicing the cactus into half inch rounds- core, spines, skin and all. These pieces were put on the freezer for 24 hours, pulled out and thawed and refrozen for another 24 hrs. This then went into the blender with 3 oz of 190 proof alcohol, and 2 cups of water. This was blended thoroughly and 250 mg of crushed ascorbic acid was added and the blender was pulsed again to mix. The whole concoction was then refrozen.
The frozen slurry was thawed fully and then dumped into the pressure cooker which was run for a 25 minute cycle. This was then strained through a cotton bandana and again through a 25 micron bubble bag. The resulting concoction was placed in the fridge to settle for 2 days, at which point a blunt tipped needle was used to carefully decant the liquid from the top, which was then refiltered through the 25 micron bag. The solid fats/lipids/gunk from the bottom was left undisturbed and discarded along with as little bit of the liquid as possible.
This was then refrozen for about a week until they were ready to hold ceremony, at which point it was thawed and again decanted and filtered, leaving behind another round of gunk.
At this point it was done.
What happened:
The resulting tea was consumed at 8 pm. On a 7hr empty stomach, half was consumed first and the other half was consumed 15 minutes later. Within 10 minutes strange, dark, animalistic closed-eyed visions began to be mentally inlaid. Not so much closed or open-eyed visuals as they were separate mental occurrences coexisting with regular reality. They managed to keep their stomach settled for about 35/40 minutes before they knew there was no possibility of not puking. Running to the bathroom, everything came out in bitter bursts and torrents.
This is when the extreme body discomfort and over-stimulation began. They smoked a joint of cannabis, blue lotus, lemon balm, pao darco, and tobacco to calm their stomach and nerves. What came next was an incredibly uncomfortable evening of physical discomfort, body tremors, twitching, and relentless over-stimulation. Visuals were mildly interesting, but were over-shadowed by the physical discomfort. Urination burned and hurt, stomach felt bloated and uncomfortable, and the body twitching became uncontrolable and almost spastic, like possessed writhing or mild seizing. The lower half of the body had all night what can best be described as restless leg syndrome, with the hips and legs twitching most of all. There was zero of the spiritual awakening feeling, or phenylethylamine ecstatic joy/glow that they'd come to know from pachanoi excursions.
Eyes were dilated and speedy effects were felt all night, and even when the physical effects began to wane (around 5:30 am) sleep was far from attainable. They finally got 2 hours of sleep from around 9-11, at which point they awoke with a start, still feeling the speedy effects and restless leg issues to this time.
The question:
Were these effects the mescaline? Was it just bridgesii? That's all it is? Why is it so lauded if so? Or was this just a personal reaction? Or was it a mistake that they made in preparation? Or was it the particular plant?
There seemed to be zero shamanistic value to this experience. No insight, no grand visions, no sense of oneness or wonder. There was only discomfort and mild visuals.
As this was their first bridgesii experience they want to know if this is what is to be expected or if they should cull all bridgesii from their garden and focus on pachanoi and peruvianus.
Any help on this path would be greatly appreciated. Their desire to get to know these plants better in ceremony is strong and true, but if that is the bridgesii experience, then they would like to abandon these ambitions and focus elsewhere.
Thank you all.
